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Have a read of this article... it is quite technical but clearly explains why not all notes on all strings have the same amount of sustain. Summarising it, neck resonance peaks may coincide with certain fretted notes and hence if that note lies in a 'peak', one can talk about a dead note.

So if I understand the article correctly, then resonance peaks are determined by the neck properties. Assuming one is not keen on shaving (removing) or adding more material to the neck (to change its properties), you are only left with the truss rod tension and the fat finger approach as your variables. The latter does add weight to the headstock and thus alters the neck. Perhaps string size plays a role as well but it doesn't mention that.

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A long decay of the string vibrations of an electric guitar ("sustain") is considered as a quality attribute. In practice, there are particular locations on the fretboard where for one of the strings the sustain is shorter than at adjacent frets. The player calls this irregularity a "dead spot". It originates from.................

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Bg wrote:A long decay of the string vibrations of an electric guitar ("sustain") is considered as a quality attribute. In practice, there are particular locations on the fretboard where for one of the strings the sustain is shorter than at adjacent frets. The player calls this irregularity a "dead spot". It originates from.................

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Mini Forklift Ⓥ wrote:No.Highly frustrating and newly discovered 'dead spots'. Took it in for Alan Farrow to have a look at this morning as I thought there may have been a high fret or two... but nope. All are spot on and the relief in the neck is perfect.

However I'm going to take it back to him next week and leave it with him as there's something amiss. Bend a note around a certain area of the fretboard and it just dies, even hitting an A on the second string sounds like there's a towel over the strings. Let's just say I'm not so happy tonight
My PRS 594 had a pronounced dead spot. As I'd bend one particular position to C# it'd just die. Couldn't understand it but a fresh set of strings took care of the issue.

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Also, maybe try a different gauge of string...
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A friend of mine had an SG that he loved apart from a dead spot. He tried everything - it wasn't a particular note, because the same note fretted on a different string was fine - so it was a combo of that particular note at that spot on the neck. Unfortunately his was on the G string, 9th fret e note. So quite a well used note.
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Fender guitars solve the issue by having all the spots dead. :P
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You could always expand your jazz knowledge so you don't need the note to sustain, since you'll be quickly moving on to lots of wrong notes.
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Delayman wrote:Fender guitars solve the issue by having all the spots dead. :P
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Delayman wrote:Fender guitars solve the issue by having all the spots dead. :P
I believe it's called 'twang'.

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Delayman wrote:A friend of mine had an SG that he loved apart from a dead spot. He tried everything - it wasn't a particular note, because the same note fretted on a different string was fine - so it was a combo of that particular note at that spot on the neck. Unfortunately his was on the G string, 9th fret e note. So quite a well used note.
I had an SG withe same issue, except it was 13th or 14th fret on the G if I recall.
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Terexgeek wrote:since you'll be quickly moving on to lots of wrong notes.
but played in the right order....
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Terexgeek wrote:since you'll be quickly moving on to lots of wrong notes.
but played in the right order....
Or vice versa Mr Preview.
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