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Mentalmen, noblewomen and anyone hither and yon...here's my pedal board:


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Yeah, it's obvious I play jazz (thinking Sun Ra and his Arkestra :crazy: ) and saxophone.

Now, two things you'll immediately notice is that there's no treadle wahs...this is deliberate, as although I think there are some breeding in a corner somewhere, I don't dig their funk. The other is that there are some double-ups: both by specific brand/type/version or by different maker but their version of the same family circuit (think soft-clipping overdrive types: Snouse BB + JHS MG, octave fuzz types: Warm Foxy Tone Box + Danelectro French Toast + Tychobrahe Octavia, etc.)...again deliberate.

Where I'm going with this is that I think overdrives can be loosely corralled by circuit similarities...that they have links back to certain, shared circuit DNA...the soft clipper family, the hard clipper family, the mid-humpers, etc. If I'm wrong on this, I know y'all will school me better...I'm only trying to sketch this out from interwebbery stuff.

What I'm trying to do, without resorting to 2-in-1 boxes (Double Barrels, D+M Drive, KoT, etc), is to find other talent boxes of the same overdrive family from other makers that offer their own spice/herb combination but still using the same generic proteins, carbs and fats, specific to the recipe, as it were.

I may be totally screwed up and leaping off of a dumb line of reasoning already, but on the chance that I'm roughly golden on this, what box(es) are in the same circuit ballpark as the Timmy? I was thinking Greer Lightspeed (without having knowingly heard/seen one)...is this correct?

And for the hell of it, and for when I get that far...is there any alternative to the Nobels ODR-1 (love that thing...ooh, so much love, just want to...oh, sorry about that)?

Can any of you gear-heads, solder jockeys, big brain dudes put a list of known dirt boxes in their relative sand-pit families? Help a fellow junkie out, bro :wave:

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Love that pic. Imagine if that was your actual pedal board; cables an' all. Just crunch across it and see what comes out.

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clubhouse wrote: Sat May 14, 2022 6:50 pm Can any of you gear-heads, solder jockeys, big brain dudes put a list of known dirt boxes in their relative sand-pit families?
1) Cool photo. What a legend.

2) Interesting question. Found this initially, but more googling is required

https://www.guitarpedalx.com/news/gpx-b ... y-for-2018

3) I find the lack of any Jeorge Tripps pedals in that pile disturbing

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JHS puts them into 6 categories of circuit, with some examples.

https://thejhsshow.com/articles/what-yo ... ive-pedals

/assuming I have understood the mission instructions

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clubhouse wrote: Sat May 14, 2022 6:50 pm what box(es) are in the same circuit ballpark as the Timmy?
Apparently PaulC explains a lot about it on freestompboxes.org

https://www.freestompboxes.org/viewtopi ... 56&t=26625

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Or there are delay pedals and just pedals
Cool t wah btw
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I love it, it makes my board look really tidy ;-)

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Molly wrote: Sat May 14, 2022 7:04 pm Love that pic. Imagine if that was your actual pedal board; cables an' all. Just crunch across it and see what comes out.
Cool man! I'm always a bit trepidatious stepping out of the closet to reveal what goes on in there...good to know I'm in safe company :D

Funny you should imagine that...and a few decades too late to catch the action but yeah...straight out of music school in the 90s, when 'noise rock' was a thing (just before Nirvana blew shit up) and 'art wank' was easier to get away with...that was pretty much my jam. Didn't have quite that number of pedals or flavours wired up, but yeah, a heap on the floor was all part of the shtick...assembling a random, series connection of pedals into an unsuspecting Twin Reverb, lie/smoosh across the top of them, guitar as signal generator and unleash...the improvisation of trying to sculpt something from the buzz, fuzz, wobble and swoosh was the trick.

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JHorner wrote: Sat May 14, 2022 7:16 pm
clubhouse wrote: Sat May 14, 2022 6:50 pm Can any of you gear-heads, solder jockeys, big brain dudes put a list of known dirt boxes in their relative sand-pit families?
1) Cool photo. What a legend.

2) Interesting question. Found this initially, but more googling is required

https://www.guitarpedalx.com/news/gpx-b ... y-for-2018

3) I find the lack of any Jeorge Tripps pedals in that pile disturbing
Dude...you are a sleuthing fiend!!! Fuck yeah! Man, I've been trolling through pages of TGP for ever trying to figure stuff out...you just get me, you...just..get...me. If I wasn't married already, I'd be down on a knee now. Ooooh, I've got some seriously enjoyable reading to do...thanks man. This site rocks!

Yeah, I dig you man...and I'm embarrassed and disturbed myself. Jeorge Tripps, man, that dude is a certified cat!

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JHorner wrote: Sat May 14, 2022 7:28 pm JHS puts them into 6 categories of circuit, with some examples.

https://thejhsshow.com/articles/what-yo ... ive-pedals

/assuming I have understood the mission instructions
Nailed it...thanks man, now I'm on my way! :thumbup:

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Kev77 wrote: Sat May 14, 2022 8:29 pm Or there are delay pedals and just pedals
Cool t wah btw
Cool, man...yeah, Mr Echo, I've detected an interesting proclivity radiating lush, wobbly, waves from your seas :thumbup:

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olegmcnoleg wrote: Sat May 14, 2022 9:04 pm I love it, it makes my board look really tidy ;-)
Yeah, I need to fix that...I'd arrange them by colour but I'm pretty fugged in that department...I battle with the traffic lights :lol:

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I spy some epic toys in the pile. Dyna Comp, Boss CE-1 + Dimension + T-rex Replica? YES PLEASE ANDY SUMMERS ALL NIGHT LONG

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rickenbackerkid wrote: Sat May 14, 2022 10:25 pm I spy some epic toys in the pile. Dyna Comp, Boss CE-1 + Dimension + T-rex Replica? YES PLEASE ANDY SUMMERS ALL NIGHT LONG
I also spied the CE-1, wowsers!
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The Lightspeed is close ish to the Timmy but it does sound different in its own right too, my current favourite Timmy type circuit is the Blues Power by King Tone, a really nice version. Apparently the Jan Ray is also a good Timmy clone but 3 times the price!

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