You'd better be buying from the local shop:Single coil wrote:Got denied finance on an se cu24 years ago
If I’m buying online from NZ based, is it local or online?
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You'd better be buying from the local shop:Single coil wrote:Got denied finance on an se cu24 years ago
If I’m buying online from NZ based, is it local or online?
sadly that is a huge % of your (assuming you work at the rockshop, because that is how it is coming across) customer base now ... most seasoned players who have the $$ to buy will buy at the place they can get it ASAP ... which is probably onlineklarkash-ton wrote: @ Rockshop today. Woman walks in wanting an electric drum kit. No idea about them whatsoever, gets info, sees kit, left looking pretty happy.
The older more experienced people like nearly all of us on here know exactly what we want so its less of a gamble buying online, generally most of the stuff I buy online is because its not available here, can't see it hurting the local industrywillow13 wrote:don't agree..the "young people" are most likely the ones who buy local so they can use finance to buy?Molly wrote:I suspect young people would be the ones for whom online shopping would be the most natural way to buy gear. They'll demo it online, use social media to discuss the merits and shop-around for the lowest price with fastest delivery. It's just the older generation that want to smash the spinning jenny.klarkash-ton wrote:... it also helps out young people who are just getting into music...
Slowy wrote: That's the problem; everything rewarding is just such hard work. Regret takes much less effort.
Well if you work there then why is profit important to you? now if you own it then yes big issueklarkash-ton wrote:Work at rockshop? are you mad? where's the profit?
agree..but then us old fullas are in theory more likely to spend bigger dollars than the younger ones so that will have an effect, although I get the impression shops in general prefer people to tick stuff up over paying outright for it (so they must be getting some sort of kick back from finance companies)jeremyb wrote:The older more experienced people like nearly all of us on here know exactly what we want so its less of a gamble buying online, generally most of the stuff I buy online is because its not available here, can't see it hurting the local industrywillow13 wrote:don't agree..the "young people" are most likely the ones who buy local so they can use finance to buy?Molly wrote:
I suspect young people would be the ones for whom online shopping would be the most natural way to buy gear. They'll demo it online, use social media to discuss the merits and shop-around for the lowest price with fastest delivery. It's just the older generation that want to smash the spinning jenny.
That's a long time to hold a grudge against them for being honest with you...willow13 wrote: but to get back to the OP, it is pretty hard to support local if they don't stock what you want (which is 95% of the time with things I buy) then them going out of business is no big deal at all ... sorry but that is just the truth
I remember a dozen years ago I had a specific guitar I had the $$ in my hand to buy and was told buy the RS that it would take 3 to 4 months for them to get it...sorry but that does not cut it when I can get it shipped in 14-21 days from 'merica (back when shipping was cheap)
Myth.willow13 wrote:agree..but then us old fullas are in theory more likely to spend bigger dollars than the younger ones so that will have an effect, although I get the impression shops in general prefer people to tick stuff up over paying outright for it (so they must be getting some sort of kick back from finance companies)jeremyb wrote:The older more experienced people like nearly all of us on here know exactly what we want so its less of a gamble buying online, generally most of the stuff I buy online is because its not available here, can't see it hurting the local industrywillow13 wrote:
don't agree..the "young people" are most likely the ones who buy local so they can use finance to buy?
Who said I worked there? Hearing a conversation makes me an employee?willow13 wrote:Well if you work there then why is profit important to you? now if you own it then yes big issueklarkash-ton wrote:Work at rockshop? are you mad? where's the profit?
it isn't a grudge, I am just quoting the truth. Them having to wait to "fill a container" before shipping over is totally understandable from their point of view but so is me going else where instead of waiting ... their loss not mineCapt. Black wrote:That's a long time to hold a grudge against them for being honest with you...willow13 wrote: but to get back to the OP, it is pretty hard to support local if they don't stock what you want (which is 95% of the time with things I buy) then them going out of business is no big deal at all ... sorry but that is just the truth
I remember a dozen years ago I had a specific guitar I had the $$ in my hand to buy and was told buy the RS that it would take 3 to 4 months for them to get it...sorry but that does not cut it when I can get it shipped in 14-21 days from 'merica (back when shipping was cheap)
I don't think anyone disagreed with the OP on the disappointing lack guitar products stocked, I think everyone was pointing out that there's good reason.klarkash-ton wrote:I'm with the OP btw. We do have an extremely disappointing breadth of product range in NZ compared to the cities and countries and states overseas (Australia is not inclusive there) that eclipse little old NZ into the dust of dust of dust.
It was probably worse since you couldn't just internet a 1000 alternatives and it would have been illegal to import them. At least now we can investigate online and buy online, and if it doesn't work out, sell it again, online.klarkash-ton wrote:Funnily enough, it was the same back in the 60's! Anyone want a Jansen guitar over a Fender/Gibson of the same era?
Economy of scale as pointed out earlier in this thread is ALL.
The best way to do that is to buy their stocks, and with something like a $5000 plus Les Paul, no one is going to buy it just because they stock it, it will need to suit the buyer's wants of a Les Paul. While I reckon you could probably get most forum members to admit Grant's LPs are damn cool and desirable, I doubt you could find the same number able to pay for one as cool as any of his. When you start including playing requirements into it the numbers diverge further, some will be Custom Shop dudes, some Modern, some Trad, some Jr and the dollars tick over...klarkash-ton wrote:In the USA and Europe, chain stores are closing all over yet also art, practice and performance space is being pushed to the edges of modern cities in lieu of rents. Sign of the times.
Boutique and speciality spaces are thriving though.
The guitar is not the instrument of the popular culture right now so NZguitars is about legacy instruments and legacy sound.
We all love the guitar here (one hopes) and we all want it to be first and foremost in our playing, we're totally biased.
To get NZ stores to stock more guitar options we all have to pressure them and persuade them that it is a good business to get what the customer is after or...
*tumbleweeds*
I like how you give jobs to anonymous people but especially like how you've given me ownership over a shop.willow13 wrote:Well if you work there then why is profit important to you? now if you own it then yes big issueklarkash-ton wrote:Work at rockshop? are you mad? where's the profit?
I got it. Just didn't agree.klarkash-ton wrote:Guess my aged sarcasm wasn't strong enough.