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Re: Pedals Of Epicness

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 9:56 am
by IMOCD
NippleWrestler wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 8:26 am Then you sell the pedal and get paid again.

It's pay to play man. I was quoted $500 USD by a reasonably well known YouTuber to demo one of my designs. And of course they keep the unit afterwards which goes without saying. It's not quite Cristiano Ronaldo rates but it's expensive for me.
I was naive to this, I'm embarrassed to say. Thanks for the insight.

Re: Pedals Of Epicness

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 10:07 am
by NippleWrestler
IMOCD wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 9:56 am
NippleWrestler wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 8:26 am Then you sell the pedal and get paid again.

It's pay to play man. I was quoted $500 USD by a reasonably well known YouTuber to demo one of my designs. And of course they keep the unit afterwards which goes without saying. It's not quite Cristiano Ronaldo rates but it's expensive for me.
I was naive to this, I'm embarrassed to say. Thanks for the insight.
Social media influencers are no different regardless of the industry. There was a thread on here talking about influencers recently in a negative light but guitar/pedals/gear is no different - these people with popular channels are paid to promote gear. That's their job. If you want them to review your thing you pay them for the attention.

I've been in and around PR/advertising for 15 years. I remember when products were launched you'd have a media event and invite the press, TV, radio, maybe a blogger. When I did some activations or launches last year the only people in attendance were influencers on Instagram and Twitter and TikTok. It's cheaper, quicker, easier to organise, and more direct to their audience. You could argue it doesn't have any legs because IG stories are gone the next day but it's the landscape we're in. Pedals are no different except instead of paying Cardi B to talk about my lipstick, I'm paying Pete Thorn to talk about my guitar widget.

Re: Pedals Of Epicness

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 12:02 pm
by HackSaw
NippleWrestler wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 10:07 am
IMOCD wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 9:56 am
NippleWrestler wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 8:26 am Then you sell the pedal and get paid again.

It's pay to play man. I was quoted $500 USD by a reasonably well known YouTuber to demo one of my designs. And of course they keep the unit afterwards which goes without saying. It's not quite Cristiano Ronaldo rates but it's expensive for me.
I was naive to this, I'm embarrassed to say. Thanks for the insight.
Social media influencers are no different regardless of the industry. There was a thread on here talking about influencers recently in a negative light but guitar/pedals/gear is no different - these people with popular channels are paid to promote gear. That's their job. If you want them to review your thing you pay them for the attention.

I've been in and around PR/advertising for 15 years. I remember when products were launched you'd have a media event and invite the press, TV, radio, maybe a blogger. When I did some activations or launches last year the only people in attendance were influencers on Instagram and Twitter and TikTok. It's cheaper, quicker, easier to organise, and more direct to their audience. You could argue it doesn't have any legs because IG stories are gone the next day but it's the landscape we're in. Pedals are no different except instead of paying Cardi B to talk about my lipstick, I'm paying Pete Thorn to talk about my guitar widget.
Tell us more about your lipstick? Or... is it some sort of implication that my playing through your pedal is putting lipstick on a pig! (my playing the pig in this case - just to be clear)

Re: Pedals Of Epicness

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 6:55 pm
by jeremyb

Re: Pedals Of Epicness

Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2021 8:28 pm
by JoeBlow
This looks interesting. Cool sounds in the demo:

Re: Pedals Of Epicness

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2021 7:58 am
by JustMatt
I love how everybody in the Supro demos are always way too cool for thier own woolen jumpers.

Re: Pedals Of Epicness

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2021 6:04 am
by jeremyb
:mental:

Re: Pedals Of Epicness

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2021 4:10 pm
by jeremyb

Re: Pedals Of Epicness

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2021 5:23 pm
by NippleWrestler
jeremyb wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 4:10 pm
The 1312 Black Mass does all that with a rotary switch for modes, they give half the profits to charity, looks better (the pack rat looks very Joyo), and is $70 USD cheaper.

Re: Pedals Of Epicness

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 6:37 am
by jeremyb
From Josh Scott himself:
There has been some skepticism about the new PackRat "Multi-Mode" pedals claims. People saying "It's just a RAT with clipping mods; nothing we haven't seen". Since we debuted this tech in 2015 with the Muffuletta, people were instantly skeptical about our claim of cramming multiple vintage circuits into a single small pedal and I don't blame them. The truth is that the Muffuletta, Bonsai, and PackRat are exactly what we say they are. Not emulation, exact replication. The Packrat is nine real analog circuits perfectly recreated inside of a state-of-the-art digital switching platform. A vintage RAT has 33 components but the PackRat is 261 components switched by 40 analog switches. When you choose a model, you are changing the components inside your Packrat into a new and different circuit. It's not magic, just a lot of hard work and R&D. We created each mode from analyzing real vintage pedals, measuring each component and even accounting for how the parts age and drift over the decades. When you choose a mode, you are playing my exact pedals from my collection. We are so glad that so many of you are loving it and that you made this our biggest release ever! Thank you!

Re: Pedals Of Epicness

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 8:17 am
by Slowy
jeremyb wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 4:10 pm
Right. I need a Packrat.

Re: Pedals Of Epicness

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 9:39 am
by Conway
Coming soon to Tone Lounge!

Re: Pedals Of Epicness

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 11:06 am
by hellblazer
NippleWrestler wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 5:23 pm The 1312 Black Mass does all that with a rotary switch for modes, they give half the profits to charity, looks better (the pack rat looks very Joyo), and is $70 USD cheaper.
Pretty much. The circuit switching tech is cool but, there's also a million other RAT based pedals out there with decent EQ options and other goodies.

The accompanying blog post is kind of interesting, he basically comes out and says all the hyped vintage RAT models sound the same, so this pedal is all the weirder less coveted versions?

Re: Pedals Of Epicness

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2021 2:59 pm
by jeremyb
Conway wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 9:39 am Coming soon to Tone Lounge!
Oh are they doing a run of blue ones?!?!??!

And in other news....

Re: Pedals Of Epicness

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 9:31 am
by Cdog
Arggghhhhh... want