Marshall Amplification - their greatest year

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Re: Marshall Amplification - their greatest year

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Molly wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 2:34 am Friedman Small Box 50 was Marshall's greatest amp.... ;-)
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Mr Davison wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 10:06 am
chur wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:17 am
MrDINO wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:09 am I noticed after having a couple of 800s and a late jmp ( 87 I think which was an early 800) they all sounded a little different to each other but all hard to get over 1 in volume.
err yes... my JMP is non MV, so got a PPIMV installed as it was insane otherwise and only really useful as a clean platform. Even the JCM800 really needed an attenuator at band practice or everyone whined..
I solved the volume issue by buying a house in the middle of an olive grove in an isolated community. My new jam room is a tad over 100 square meters also which helps. Easy fix!
Nice! However how's the hearing?
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Bigdaddy wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 11:45 am
Mr Davison wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 10:06 am
chur wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:17 am

err yes... my JMP is non MV, so got a PPIMV installed as it was insane otherwise and only really useful as a clean platform. Even the JCM800 really needed an attenuator at band practice or everyone whined..
I solved the volume issue by buying a house in the middle of an olive grove in an isolated community. My new jam room is a tad over 100 square meters also which helps. Easy fix!
My solution was getting the DSL-1 head, I think from you if I'm not mistaken....
Yes indeed! And perhaps that is their greatest marketing achievement, a Marshall for every & any environment from an apartment complex to the biggest of stages. Hope your well & the DSL1 is providing crunchy goodness suitable for the room! 😃
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Mr Davison wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 10:02 am
Slowy wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 5:44 am Never played one but I know the 800 receives much love and respect from those in the know.
May I ask why you haven't played one? Even if the high input is not your thing, my personal opinion is that the low input on them is criminally underated. If you get the chance, please don't be shy!
Never really met one. I did own a JTM45. Doing a run of gigs in a 5 piece band with 500+ audience it was a sublime thing but reverting to normal operations it was overkill. It also lost character if you tried to dial it back. Likewise, I’ve always assumed 800s are just way more amp than I can use.
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chur wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:17 am
Nice! However how's the hearing?
No issues, I believe I have very robust ears!
I've always worked in a noisy trade & environment. As such my workplaces have been required by law to have my hearing & lung function checked twice a year which I certainly appreciate. I am extremely fastidious with hearing protection in my workplace but am extremely relaxed with it in a music environment. After 20 years of testing, my hearing has showed no signs of deterioration. I also believe I'm lucky, not all my workmates or bandmates can say the same.
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Slowy wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 1:04 pm
Mr Davison wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 10:02 am
Slowy wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 5:44 am Never played one but I know the 800 receives much love and respect from those in the know.
May I ask why you haven't played one? Even if the high input is not your thing, my personal opinion is that the low input on them is criminally underated. If you get the chance, please don't be shy!
Never really met one. I did own a JTM45. Doing a run of gigs in a 5 piece band with 500+ audience it was a sublime thing but reverting to normal operations it was overkill. It also lost character if you tried to dial it back. Likewise, I’ve always assumed 800s are just way more amp than I can use.
You don't need to run the JCM800 full bore like the jtm45, to get the magic. Thats what I liked about mine.
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IME there's no such thing as Marshall's greatest year. You can find a spectacular sounding beast of an amp from pretty much any year but it will require endless patience wading through a skip load of mediocre ones until you find it.
Best I've ever had was a mid 70's 4 holer, same cosmetics as your 2203 but no master etc. Mine was stolen but fortunately Maurice Plaquette ( London hire company ) had a stack of equal sonic calibre and every engineer I've ever worked with had it's serial number and would request it on sessions..
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Nah. ‘87 was peak - both for the Silver Jube, and probably equally so, the original Marshall V30 - probably one of the best rock speakers ever.

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Dharmajester wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 6:43 pm IME there's no such thing as Marshall's greatest year. You can find a spectacular sounding beast of an amp from pretty much any year but it will require endless patience wading through a skip load of mediocre ones until you find it.
This is the absolute undeniable truth.

However, due to my completely biased post I must keep my head buried in the sand 😃
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murky wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 7:19 pm Nah. ‘87 was peak - both for the Silver Jube, and probably equally so, the original Marshall V30 - probably one of the best rock speakers ever.
Sounds like a post from someone who hasn't played an '84!!
Great call on the speakers admittedly
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Mr Davison wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 7:44 pm
Dharmajester wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 6:43 pm IME there's no such thing as Marshall's greatest year. You can find a spectacular sounding beast of an amp from pretty much any year but it will require endless patience wading through a skip load of mediocre ones until you find it.
This is the absolute undeniable truth.

However, due to my completely biased post I must keep my head buried in the sand 😃
The only way to prove it is to host a gearfest.
Jops wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 7:46 am Spring is the comic sans of reverbs anyway.

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robthemac wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 7:49 pm
Mr Davison wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 7:44 pm
Dharmajester wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 6:43 pm IME there's no such thing as Marshall's greatest year. You can find a spectacular sounding beast of an amp from pretty much any year but it will require endless patience wading through a skip load of mediocre ones until you find it.
This is the absolute undeniable truth.

However, due to my completely biased post I must keep my head buried in the sand 😃
The only way to prove it is to host a gearfest.
Disclaimers may need to be signed. I don't need my biased unfactual opinions devalued further.
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Mr Davison wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 7:59 pm
robthemac wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 7:49 pm
Mr Davison wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 7:44 pm

This is the absolute undeniable truth.

However, due to my completely biased post I must keep my head buried in the sand 😃
The only way to prove it is to host a gearfest.
Disclaimers may need to be signed. I don't need my biased unfactual opinions devalued further.
If volume is tone, I think you'll be proved right.
Jops wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 7:46 am Spring is the comic sans of reverbs anyway.

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robthemac wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 8:35 pm

If volume is tone, I think you'll be proved right.
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Mr Davison wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:16 pm
robthemac wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 8:35 pm

If volume is tone, I think you'll be proved right.
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Trouser-flaping-tastic.

Great when you get the volume up so high you can feel it. It gives a percussive thump you can feel in your chest. It's a rare thing to enjoy. Changes the interaction between guitar and amp. Can't imagine it's something that could be modeled.

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