Low Wall Voltage Tonight.....
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Low Wall Voltage Tonight.....
Disclaimer: everything tells me my bull*hit meter should be maxing out right now......but it isn't......
Plinking around this evening, everything sounded a bit meh. Swap to more expensive guitar - nope. Different amps (all tube) - nope. Take pants off - no (surprised, because that normally fixes everything). Even the dog agreed, moved to another room, and started ripping wallpaper off the wall.
Then I noticed - wall voltage was 213-214v.
I know this because I purchased a voltage meter a couple of years ago. Having done so, I quickly concluded that wall voltage was pretty consistent (228-232v typically), and I couldn’t hear any difference with this variation. So, I filed that theory in the bull*hit bin and made peace with the $50 I just wasted.....but left the meter plugged in, hardly giving it a glance in the time since.......until now that is......
Hmmmmm.....
Plinking around this evening, everything sounded a bit meh. Swap to more expensive guitar - nope. Different amps (all tube) - nope. Take pants off - no (surprised, because that normally fixes everything). Even the dog agreed, moved to another room, and started ripping wallpaper off the wall.
Then I noticed - wall voltage was 213-214v.
I know this because I purchased a voltage meter a couple of years ago. Having done so, I quickly concluded that wall voltage was pretty consistent (228-232v typically), and I couldn’t hear any difference with this variation. So, I filed that theory in the bull*hit bin and made peace with the $50 I just wasted.....but left the meter plugged in, hardly giving it a glance in the time since.......until now that is......
Hmmmmm.....
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Re: Low Wall Voltage Tonight.....
That's extremely low. I'm normally high at 245 which has it's own issues. You on the grid?murky wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 7:15 pm Disclaimer: everything tells me my bull*hit meter should be maxing out right now......but it isn't......
Plinking around this evening, everything sounded a bit meh. Swap to more expensive guitar - nope. Different amps (all tube) - nope. Take pants off - no (surprised, because that normally fixes everything). Even the dog agreed, moved to another room, and started ripping wallpaper off the wall.
Then I noticed - wall voltage was 213-214v.
I know this because I purchased a voltage meter a couple of years ago. Having done so, I quickly concluded that wall voltage was pretty consistent (228-232v typically), and I couldn’t hear any difference with this variation. So, I filed that theory in the bull*hit bin and made peace with the $50 I just wasted.....but left the meter plugged in, hardly giving it a glance in the time since.......until now that is......
Hmmmmm.....
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Re: Low Wall Voltage Tonight.....
Check some other power points all round the house. Are they the same?
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Re: Low Wall Voltage Tonight.....
Even worse - most around 211v now!
Not suprising.....it is pretty cold up here in Auckland
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Re: Low Wall Voltage Tonight.....
Time to play some Van Halen I guess? You won't even need a variac haha.
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Re: Low Wall Voltage Tonight.....
Jeez, must be all those EV's charging along with the heat pumps cranked! Just checked mine at 241V - lowish for my house.
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Re: Low Wall Voltage Tonight.....
Would that work or do you need to set it for US voltage and take it down from there?godgrinder wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 7:38 pm Time to play some Van Halen I guess? You won't even need a variac haha.
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Re: Low Wall Voltage Tonight.....
Yeah, you can do it at 230v - the reduction's just proportionate. The step most people miss is re-biasing the power tubes at the lower voltage....and making sure someone doesn't then plug it back into full wall voltage......Molly wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 7:57 pmWould that work or do you need to set it for US voltage and take it down from there?godgrinder wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 7:38 pm Time to play some Van Halen I guess? You won't even need a variac haha.
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Re: Low Wall Voltage Tonight.....
It wont fix the sound, but at least you don't have to use a strap. Free guitar stand!
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Re: Low Wall Voltage Tonight.....
Interesting that you spotted it. Stormy weather out your way then?
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Re: Low Wall Voltage Tonight.....
I have a Suhr SL68 on my bucket list. It does the variac / re-bias thing itself.murky wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 8:06 pmYeah, you can do it at 230v - the reduction's just proportionate. The step most people miss is re-biasing the power tubes at the lower voltage....and making sure someone doesn't then plug it back into full wall voltage......Molly wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 7:57 pmWould that work or do you need to set it for US voltage and take it down from there?godgrinder wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 7:38 pm Time to play some Van Halen I guess? You won't even need a variac haha.
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Re: Low Wall Voltage Tonight.....
Yeah, I chased the 12000 thing a while back and ended up keeping a Bray 4550. The Variac thing is a cool trick, but was more like a cherry on top of an already killer cake/icing. A good 12000, with everything on 10 and the right EL43’s, is actually all you really need. The Bray can switch from GZ34 to SS rectification - the GZ34 gives a bit of softness/sag similar to variac, but I rarely find myself using it.
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Re: Low Wall Voltage Tonight.....
Check the voltage in the main fuse box where it entered the house. If it is low there then report it to the supplier.
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Re: Low Wall Voltage Tonight.....
Stripe's back.....
Things were sounding a little like unwashed men’s undies tonight. Have been using the same amp/gat all week, and it’s been sounding fab, so the change was quite obvious.
Grabbed the volt meter from the other room, and wadda you know - 216v! [EDIT - voltage in on Meter Box also reading ~216v]
Did a bit of experimenting:
Things were sounding a little like unwashed men’s undies tonight. Have been using the same amp/gat all week, and it’s been sounding fab, so the change was quite obvious.
Grabbed the volt meter from the other room, and wadda you know - 216v! [EDIT - voltage in on Meter Box also reading ~216v]
Did a bit of experimenting:
- The change is most noticeable with p90’s - specifically reduced clarity on the neck pickup, and a lot less dynamic range.
- Single coils - I think there was a difference - but wouldn’t bet the first born.
- Buckers - nadda - sounded pretty normal.