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output transformer upgrade ?
Hi all
Anyone have experience in OT upgrades?
I know there are all sorts of variations but I was reading about dropping a bigger OT into fender amps.
In my 6g9b tremolux the output tranny os rated at 4ohm so i was thinking of getting a replacement hammomd from mouser so that it had 4/8/16 taps.
Then I thought is there a role for beefing things up?
I have seen places mention using a bassman OT.
What ,if any, difference would this make? (except for gravitational pull on near objects/planets)
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Anyone have experience in OT upgrades?
I know there are all sorts of variations but I was reading about dropping a bigger OT into fender amps.
In my 6g9b tremolux the output tranny os rated at 4ohm so i was thinking of getting a replacement hammomd from mouser so that it had 4/8/16 taps.
Then I thought is there a role for beefing things up?
I have seen places mention using a bassman OT.
What ,if any, difference would this make? (except for gravitational pull on near objects/planets)
Thanks
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Re: output transformer upgrade ?
Bigger OT can increase bass response and headroom. Needs to be matched to the impedance of the output valves on the primary
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Re: output transformer upgrade ?
If you need 4/8/16 speaker taps then you have no choice. But "bigger" OTs don't necessarily make the amp sound better. Different maybe (as Cdog mentioned) but the "special" thing about the tone of your amp might be a slightly underrated OT...
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Re: output transformer upgrade ?
In other words, smaller may give more satisfaction...
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Re: output transformer upgrade ?
2 x 6L6?
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Re: output transformer upgrade ?
Looks like a Classictone 40-18006 is the equivalent of your 6G9B OT (Fender 125A6A) except it has 4/8/16 ohm output impedances. The Primary impedance is 4 Kohm There may be a Hammond equivalent as well. I can get these and install for you so sing out if you want a price.
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Re: output transformer upgrade ?
You will need a primary of ~4000ohms https://www.hammfg.com/part/1760J?referer=1399
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Re: output transformer upgrade ?
Yep, that's the one!sizzlingbadger wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:48 pm You will need a primary of ~4000ohms https://www.hammfg.com/part/1760J?referer=1399
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Re: output transformer upgrade ?
Thanks very much yes 2x6L6MikeC wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:42 pm Looks like a Classictone 40-18006 is the equivalent of your 6G9B OT (Fender 125A6A) except it has 4/8/16 ohm output impedances. The Primary impedance is 4 Kohm There may be a Hammond equivalent as well. I can get these and install for you so sing out if you want a price.
Is there any difference between classic tone and hammond ?
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Re: output transformer upgrade ?
Yes that's the one I came up with.sizzlingbadger wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:48 pm You will need a primary of ~4000ohms https://www.hammfg.com/part/1760J?referer=1399
I guess the two outstanding questions are.:
1. Any difference between brands
2. Is it worth beefing up the thing while I'm at it
I guess 2. Comes down to taste a fair bit..
For surf guitar we are after big bottom end and plenty of headroom
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Re: output transformer upgrade ?
They're both good. I can often get Hammond's cheaper and I use them alot.StrummersOfThunder wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:33 pmThanks very much yes 2x6L6MikeC wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:42 pm Looks like a Classictone 40-18006 is the equivalent of your 6G9B OT (Fender 125A6A) except it has 4/8/16 ohm output impedances. The Primary impedance is 4 Kohm There may be a Hammond equivalent as well. I can get these and install for you so sing out if you want a price.
Is there any difference between classic tone and hammond ?
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Re: output transformer upgrade ?
1/. See my previous answer.StrummersOfThunder wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:35 pmYes that's the one I came up with.sizzlingbadger wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:48 pm You will need a primary of ~4000ohms https://www.hammfg.com/part/1760J?referer=1399
I guess the two outstanding questions are.:
1. Any difference between brands
2. Is it worth beefing up the thing while I'm at it
I guess 2. Comes down to taste a fair bit..
For surf guitar we are after big bottom end and plenty of headroom
2/. I think your amp is renowned for a "big" clean tone so the Fender OT is already quite beefy. The stated Classic Tone & Hammond are the equivalent of the Fender OT so I'd stick with either of those.
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