Room mic experimentation with the AFD100

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Conway wrote:TKO to Bender in the 9th round.

right. so you're saying that Mono is really stereo and mono has a left and a right that are seperate and pannible

is pannible even a word, may as well be because on this thread everything is decided by you, people just like you.
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As for the Vid, IMHO, the guy played the notes but had none of LC vibe or finesse...

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benderissimo wrote:Where's the facepalm smiley when you need it?
you cant have a stereo spectrum on a mono track
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As for the Vid, IMHO, the guy played the notes but had none of LC vibe or finesse...

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capt abaham wrote:
Conway wrote:TKO to Bender in the 9th round.

right. so you're saying that Mono is really stereo and mono has a left and a right that are seperate and pannible

is pannible even a word, may as well be because on this thread everything is decided by you, people just like you.
No, I'm saying Bender had you on the ropes and your response was so feeble, the ref threw in the towel for you.
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slash-ed wrote:So... Just the i5:



Both i5 and Red12 summed to centre:



i5 panned centre and Red12 to the right:


on my P.C this feels quite mono
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As for the Vid, IMHO, the guy played the notes but had none of LC vibe or finesse...

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Conway wrote:
capt abaham wrote:
Conway wrote:TKO to Bender in the 9th round.

right. so you're saying that Mono is really stereo and mono has a left and a right that are seperate and pannible

is pannible even a word, may as well be because on this thread everything is decided by you, people just like you.
No, I'm saying Bender had you on the ropes and your response was so feeble, the ref threw in the towel for you.

i`m still up and punching brother
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As for the Vid, IMHO, the guy played the notes but had none of LC vibe or finesse...

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On my headphones, it is clearly stereo. The soundcloud player only shows a single wave form even on stereo tracks. So you can't rely on that.
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capt abaham wrote:
slash-ed wrote:So... Just the i5:



Both i5 and Red12 summed to centre:



i5 panned centre and Red12 to the right:


on my P.C this feels quite mono
http://help.soundcloud.com/customer/por ... s-to-mono-
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ok, cool now we are getting somwhere:

from the Link Ed posted

"Does SoundCloud convert my files to mono?
We don't modify the original for download. For the stream, we convert the original into MP3 Joint Stereo for streaming. It's only the waveform that gets mixed down to mono"

so if i listen to the stream am i hearing dual mono or stereo? what is "joint stereo"?

from the net:

MP3 Joint Stereo Encoding
Joint stereo is a method to save some bandwidth by encoding certain parts of the spectrum in mono (i.e. only once) for which the human ear has no directional hearing. These are very low and very high tones.

The bandwidth is saved by recording a wider sum channel and a narrower difference channel, where the difference channel does not contain these spectral components.

This works very well and produces excellent quality at 128 Kbit/s for most pieces of music. The Fraunhofer codecs, for example, use this method.

However, there is one drawback. Some music contains sounds that are deliberately delayed or phase shifted. Such effect boxes are called "flanger", "phaser" and the like. If you encode such music in joint stereo, you will have bad cancelling effects where the high tones appear and disappear all the time, destroying the good original sound. One old example is the accompanying guitar in Paul Simon's "Mrs. Robinson".

Other encoders, like Lame or BladeEnc, record both stereo channels entirely separately. They are free of these distortions. However, to reach the same overall quality, they need some more bits, i.e. at least 160 Kbit/s.

Thus you could try Fraunhofer at 128 Kbit/s first, then listen for any distortions and, if you hear any, abandon the compressed music and compress again with Lame or BladeEnc at 160 Kbit/s or more. But, as memory becomes ever cheaper, you might as well use Lame or any other good encoder with separate stereo and variable bit rate encoding from the start."

Another way out of the dilemma is to use MPEG-4 AAC, which simply has a better compression algorithm and reliably produces excellent quality at 128 Kbit/s or even at 96."
read this link http://audacity.238276.n2.nabble.com/Mp ... 41512.html
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Originally Posted by STEEL KAGE
As for the Vid, IMHO, the guy played the notes but had none of LC vibe or finesse...

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sopachrga wrote:On my headphones, it is clearly stereo. The soundcloud player only shows a single wave form even on stereo tracks. So you can't rely on that.

thanks for the reply
Originally Posted by STEEL KAGE
As for the Vid, IMHO, the guy played the notes but had none of LC vibe or finesse...

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Re: Room mic experimentation with the AFD100

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capt abaham wrote:
benderissimo wrote:Where's the facepalm smiley when you need it?
you cant have a stereo spectrum on a mono track
Absolutely correct. However since Ed has two mono sources in a DAW which he has output to a stereo file your answer is redundant.

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benderissimo wrote:
capt abaham wrote:
benderissimo wrote:Where's the facepalm smiley when you need it?
you cant have a stereo spectrum on a mono track
Absolutely correct. However since Ed has two mono sources in a DAW which he has output to a stereo file your answer is redundant.
yes, well i did ask him about that earlier.

i thought it must be a software thing otherwise the thread just didnt make any sense
Originally Posted by STEEL KAGE
As for the Vid, IMHO, the guy played the notes but had none of LC vibe or finesse...

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So ol' golden ears muzuki can't tell mono from stereo? Say it ain't so. My faith in dudes who work with mics every day has been shattered.
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Some Bozo wrote:So ol' golden ears muzuki can't tell mono from stereo? Say it ain't so. My faith in dudes who work with mics every day has been shattered.
do you really believe i listened to the clips?
Originally Posted by STEEL KAGE
As for the Vid, IMHO, the guy played the notes but had none of LC vibe or finesse...

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