diff between 22 and 24 prs

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diff between 22 and 24 prs

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Actually, the bridge and bridge Pick-up get pulled a bit close to the neck.

If they just added 2 'extra' frets and moved the neck, they would be much more difficult to use because of the body being in the way.
The addition of two frets isn't all that much in terms of extra length, its not as if the two frets are as wide as just the first fret - but it does mean the 'neck' is a bit longer.

If you look closely, you will see that the neck joins the body at different frets -

more obvious on the top side I think because of the scoop on the lower horn - depending on whether its a 22 or 24 fret guitar.

If you look at the Custom 22 and Custom 24 (as these are very similar looking) you will also see that the 22 fret guitar has less 'wood' from the base of the guitar to the bridge than the Custom 24 because the Custom 24's bridge and bridge PU have had to be shifted to account for the slightly longer neck.

I know that the 'bridge' PU sounds pretty much the same and its the 'neck' PU that changes.

Its no wonder people think that must mean the Neck PU must have moved but the reality is that the bridge and bridge PU have moved but the distance between the bridge and neck has reduced.
The Pick-ups are dependent on the distance from the bridge as that is the starting point of the string and any vibration with the 'end' point shifting depending on where you fret the note (or nut if you pluck it open).

Because the Bridge PU is the same distance from the bridge in both the Custom 22 and 24 as it, along with the bridge, was moved closer to the neck, its sound doesn't change but because the neck is now 'closer' to the 'starting point' of the string, it changes the tone.

Overall, the length of a Custom 24 is a bit longer
thanks to the addition of those 2 frets but its not a big deal and certainly not as long as some guitars as it has a relatively small headstock because it has 3 tuners on either side instead of 6 in a line.
Its perhaps a couple of CM's more as the two extra frets are also the two slimmest but I bet you wouldn't really notice.
Even in a shop next to each other, a Custom 22 and Custom 24 look virtually identical in size and length with only the owl as an indication of which is which.
Obviously if you start to look very closely you will see the neck meets the body at different frets and the bridge and bridge PU are moved closer to the neck but the extra length of one isn't immediately obvious. There are still some that think the neck PU is moved to accommodate the extra frets which only proves they cannot detect the difference in length of each.
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There are still some that think the neck PU is moved to accommodate the extra frets which only proves they cannot detect the difference in length of each.

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:congrats:

c/p


The horns are the same. The neck is longer so to keep the scale the same,
the bridge is further up the body by the length of the two addition neck frets.

The result is that the neck pickup is that much closer to the bridge pickup.
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There are still some that think the neck PU is moved to accommodate the extra frets which only proves they cannot detect the difference in length of each.

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Pic?
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Any pics ?

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Kev77 wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:26 pmPic?
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StrummersOfThunder wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:27 pm
Kev77 wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:26 pmPic?
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c/p


The only decision really should be which, if not BOTH, guitar is going to give you the tone you prefer, want and/or need.

The 24 has a brighter neck PU, as you would expect as its closer to the bridge.

Unless you really need 24 frets which really makes the decision for you, then the only decision is which one gives you the tones you are looking for (if you can't have both).
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Re: PRS CE24 White

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fwiw
Pick ups closer together might equate to more Quack


easy to see a difference once you know.

I`ll do a thread on old verses new next.

happy to highlight the difference over the years between the three versions of Tremolo, new verses old Neck construction, version one to version three tuners and overall factory cost savings built into some of the new models.
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Bump for pics
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Bump for can't be arsed to ship?

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Any updates yet?
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c/p


So basically the Neck PU remain at the same position on the body, but the neck, the bridge PU and the Bridge goes up
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mrmofo wrote: Mon May 03, 2021 12:00 pm
Molly wrote: Mon May 03, 2021 11:13 am Bump for can't be arsed to ship?
it`s not that i cant be arsed. I don't trust them to get this beautiful guitar to your door
Fair enough. :thumbup:

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Re: PRS CE24 White

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It must be a very shy guitar :-)

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