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Ok, I have truss rod issues. refretting my Ash custom went well but the bloody trussrod is a single acting one. Its also cracked the wood around the top where the nut fastens. That was probably my fault about 10 years back when it needed a tweek, I gave it a good pull just on the nut without putting weight onto the neck to help it. My bad :(

So. Choices.

1/ Try and find a socket that actually fits the fucking nut, thanks Adrian, its not metric. Oh and its brass as well so its a pig to try and remove without being able to get an actual socket onto it - the groove is way to shallow.

2/ Saying fuck it, heating up the fingerboard, removing, fixing the truss rod slot properly and fitting a double acting one, regluing the fretboard ( or a new one )

3/ Saying fuck it, consigning it to the pile of maybe one day I'll get round to it and re-using all hardware in a new build.

Option 3 is currently my favourite. But 2 is an option as maybe I want to do more luthiery work in the future. Option 4 would be just to ignore it like I have for probably a year or three now.
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Option 1. Failing that, I pick option 2. Then if that fails, I pick option 3.

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Jay wrote: Sat Mar 06, 2021 4:10 pmPics?
I'll add a couple tomorrow
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Pick the first metric socket that fits over it, and use some cut bits of coke can to shim the nut enough for it to grip :)
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jeremyb wrote: Sat Mar 06, 2021 4:26 pm Pick the first metric socket that fits over it, and use some cut bits of coke can to shim the nut enough for it to grip :)
If I could get my socket into me nuts it would be fine.... the cutout is too shallow to fit a socket into now. Its hard to explain. My socket sidewalls are too thick. Happy to grind one down to fit.

Problem is though, I need to create a workable 'forever' fix, lots of people take the nut off and fit a big washer but I really don't see that as being a long term fix.
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Is that the 3xp90 one? Option 2 if the crack isn't too bad.
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I have successfully used a half round chisel to enlarge a nut hole before, so I could get a socket in there...option 1 then 2.
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Do you have one I can borrow :D Curry night coming up, lets make some plans!

Else I'll have to hit it with a narrow flat one and then live with the shame behind the truss rod cover....
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Bg wrote: Sat Mar 06, 2021 4:55 pm Do you have one I can borrow :D Curry night coming up, lets make some plans!

Else I'll have to hit it with a narrow flat one and then live with the shame behind the truss rod cover....
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Doh, yeah thats a definite option. Forgot I had a dremel, one of those things I don't use often but is invaluable when I remember I have one lol....
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The whole single acting v double acting truss rod is still probably my main concern. I'll take a pic tomorrow and you'll see why.
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Maybe a Gibson sized truss rod nut...
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Bg wrote: Sat Mar 06, 2021 4:34 pm
Problem is though, I need to create a workable 'forever' fix, lots of people take the nut off and fit a big washer but I really don't see that as being a long term fix.
You a metal worker? Create a beautiful 'washer' that fits the channel completely and thus covers the whole of the exposed neck (end) within the channel. About 2mm thick, drops in from the top and somebody is your auntie.

Carving tools are great for enlarging the channel but I would have thought a round spanner will get in there, rather than a socket. If the channel arches up, a round spanner should get in...

I told JB, this works for me every time :D

Did I say a round spanner should get in?

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yeah nah, my sockets don't fit, a ring spanner is just as thick and even less turning circle

If I knew exactly what size it was, I'd take the socket to the bench grinder and make it fit. Its awkward sizing and I need to carve it out before I can actually fit a socket too it.

I think slowly hit the nail on the head, dremel away behind it and then get a socket on the bugger. Sometimes you get bogged down with stuff and the solution is staring at your bollocks.

I'm not sure the thick washer will work yet. I know its a common enough temporary fix.
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