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BY Kev77
#862275
I’m working on an ash body tele Deluxe project .
I’ve sanded it and steel wool’d it into slinky smooth.
I’m wanting to use a contrasting grain filler for the semi transparent finish.
Can anyone recommend a brand or colour they’ve used with success.

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BY GrantB
#862276
You can go clear, brown, white whatever, and just add toner (or, as I’ve done once, furniture “dust”....super dark powders used in tints.

You’ll run a sealer coat first, right!!!


Kewl project!!
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BY Kev77
#862283
Cheers man, like a tint they put in paints,?
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BY GrantB
#862287
Kev77 wrote:Cheers man, like a tint they put in paints,?


Yes, and no. Yes, they tint the grain filler, but can be liquid or powder. I'm not sure what you've got "at hand" to tint the filler. What sort of filler are you using? If it's a Bunnings type thingy, just buy the dark pre mixed. Waterbased ideally then you can smash it with whaetever you're top coating it with.

Which is what BTW? Nitro?
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BY Kev77
#862290
Haven’t got that far, most likely.
Cheers I’ll look into a good water based filler
BY IMOCD
#862312
Kev77 wrote:I’m working on an ash body tele Deluxe project .
I’ve sanded it and steel wool’d it into slinky smooth.
I’m wanting to use a contrasting grain filler for the semi transparent finish.
Can anyone recommend a brand or colour they’ve used with success.

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Love the contrasting grain look. I've just refinished an LP studio. I was looking to go down the route of grainfilling the mahogany back and was going to use Timbermate and a dark red Rit fabric dye (Transtint is ideal but pretty pricey here). In the end though I decided to stick with open grain. With the top maple, my intention was to go through brown (sand) then red(sand again) and amber to finish to get a nice very subtle burst happening throughout the grain. But alas, given covid restrictions, getting supplies was impossible so I decided to go with a truoil finish instead. Glad I did as I'm loving the contrast of the natural finish of the maple against the deepness of the mahogany.

When I was doing my compulsory YT research, I leaned quite heavily on BigD guitars and Brad Angroves channels and Crimson guitars have some pretty good stuff too, but you probably already know that!
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BY Lostininverness
#862313
I've used timbermate stuff from Bunnings as well which seems to work fine. With Ash you might need to do a couple of fillings to really get the grain filled. And as Grant said make sure you use a sealer coat unless you're going for a cherry red finish where the dark filler is used to "stain" the timber a little.
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BY Kev77
#862453
Cheers gents. I’ll post pics when it’s looking near done
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BY Kev77
#862714
As an update, I’ve gone for grain filler and thin layers of white shellac. The shellac is super thin and I’ve only done about six or so layers. I buff etc between coats. I’m liking the effect so far.
As I add more
Layers it will harden and bond with the ash, and hopefully remain somewhat transparent

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BY Bg
#862715
Yep thats looking tasty!
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BY StratMatt
#862716
Looking really good. What grain filler did you go for? I'm doing an Ash strat, I didn't really see anything at Mitre 10 that looked like it was suitable.
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BY Bg
#862735
Kev77 wrote:https://www.bunnings.co.nz/timbermate-interior-woodfiller-250g-ebony_p1571676

got this stuff at Bunnings, I got the white one and tinted it.
It’s pretty tough out of the it, needs some water to turn it into an icing consistency


I use that as a filler for cabs when there is tear out etc. Its really good stuff :) thumbs up.
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BY Molly
#862743
I use Timbermate too. I used to use a mortar and pestle to get it really smooth. I learned a lot from this build:



GrantB wrote:You’ll run a sealer coat first, right!!!


Just to clarify because this isn't something I knew to do. So, a sealer coat is an initial coat of paint (nitro aerosol in the case of my present Strat refin) applied before you do the first grain fill?

I'm at the 'stripping off the old finish' stage. Nice two-piece MJT alder body.
BY ChAoZ
#862756
Black paint, then clear, then colour coats then a shit load more clear
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