(lost in) space echo - now with demo

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Re: (lost in) space echo - now with demo

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Damn this thread for making me look at the RE-202….
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GrantB wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2024 7:02 am Damn this thread for making me look at the RE-202….
Oh yea do that then we can have a put them in series and cause a bridge to collapse

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GrantB wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2024 7:02 am Damn this thread for making me look at the RE-202….
Its ok, they don't really sound like the original, seem to generally be regarded as a disappointment :-(
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Excellent score there, good sir. If you like the sound of drunk, seasick ghosts haunting your rig, the Space Echoes will be the medium’s choice.

I have a RE 501 and played in a band with it and another (excellent) guitarist who had a SRE 555 (the rack mountable version) and can confirm that when used in wide stereo spread, to their combined full powers, audience levitation and earth axis, spin pattern distortions are possible.

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StrummersOfThunder wrote: Mon Jan 15, 2024 5:25 pm
JoeBlow wrote: Mon Jan 15, 2024 6:01 am I'd love to hear some demos of the space echo. So dreamy 🫠
Here you go

https://youtu.be/oOxOflan7P4?si=7Mgh8uOEh7tQKE6_
Dang... That is sweet listening.

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Cdog wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2024 4:05 pm
StrummersOfThunder wrote: Mon Jan 15, 2024 5:25 pm
JoeBlow wrote: Mon Jan 15, 2024 6:01 am I'd love to hear some demos of the space echo. So dreamy 🫠
Here you go

https://youtu.be/oOxOflan7P4?si=7Mgh8uOEh7tQKE6_
Dang... That is sweet listening.
Thanks
I haven’t really had a chance to get a full grip of all the functions
I’ll do a few more recordings this week with some different guitars / amps too I think

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Mind you , I might just leave it to Brian …

https://youtu.be/qO53RJhKvMY?si=AsNxHAsXVP8ZsZ3-

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SO some interesting (and reassuring) info from Echo Fix in aussie...

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Hey Anthony,

Your unit appears to be a very early 201. I can see this was originally fitted with a brushed motor, and probably modded by Roland to fit the brushless DC motor.

Have you owned a 201 before? If not, they generally need a buffer between the guitar and echo to get a decent sound. It could be that contributing to the tone suck.

I would recommend at least the full service kit. Using the correct tape is very important in these machines, and I can only guarantee the tape we sell is the correct type. It's possible you will require the ultimate service kit and a recap to get the unit functioning optimally again, but you might need a tech to take a look at it to determine the full scope of what it needs.

Very cool find having such an early unit!

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And this post has some very interesting stuff about the input impedence, buffering and using long guitar leads! Including brian etzers 50ft stage lead!
https://www.gretsch-talk.com/threads/ro ... ues.72499/

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StrummersOfThunder wrote: Fri Jan 19, 2024 6:52 pm And this post has some very interesting stuff about the input impedence, buffering and using long guitar leads! Including brian etzers 50ft stage lead!
https://www.gretsch-talk.com/threads/ro ... ues.72499/
50ft lead is one way of dealing with too bright pickups :rofl:
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jeremyb wrote: Fri Jan 19, 2024 8:28 pm
StrummersOfThunder wrote: Fri Jan 19, 2024 6:52 pm And this post has some very interesting stuff about the input impedence, buffering and using long guitar leads! Including brian etzers 50ft stage lead!
https://www.gretsch-talk.com/threads/ro ... ues.72499/
50ft lead is one way of dealing with too bright pickups :rofl:
Interestingly it results in the opposite!

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StrummersOfThunder wrote: Fri Jan 19, 2024 8:52 pm
jeremyb wrote: Fri Jan 19, 2024 8:28 pm
StrummersOfThunder wrote: Fri Jan 19, 2024 6:52 pm And this post has some very interesting stuff about the input impedence, buffering and using long guitar leads! Including brian etzers 50ft stage lead!
https://www.gretsch-talk.com/threads/ro ... ues.72499/
50ft lead is one way of dealing with too bright pickups :rofl:
Interestingly it results in the opposite!
RobRoyMcCoy did a demo for NZG members a long, long time ago, when he owned Freedom Cables. It was really well done and he talked through a lot of stuff, short version of the demo was the guitar cable makes fuck all difference but the amp to cab cable makes a difference.
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StrummersOfThunder wrote: Fri Jan 19, 2024 8:52 pm
jeremyb wrote: Fri Jan 19, 2024 8:28 pm
StrummersOfThunder wrote: Fri Jan 19, 2024 6:52 pm And this post has some very interesting stuff about the input impedence, buffering and using long guitar leads! Including brian etzers 50ft stage lead!
https://www.gretsch-talk.com/threads/ro ... ues.72499/
50ft lead is one way of dealing with too bright pickups :rofl:
Interestingly it results in the opposite!
A longer cable has higher capacitance, therefore reduced treble, I dare say any increase is coming from pedals after it.
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Well I don’t know the exact workings of it but it’s an input impedance matching thing as to e space echo was for keyboards or similar and not guitars, but the length of cable does something to accomodate for this, and this I haven’t tested it, this results in less treble cut. At least that’s what the Gretsch article infers. Different to the long cable into guitar amp (which is impedance matched for a guitar).
Could be codswhallop, will test

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