The Acoustic Thread
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I've been following this with my heart in my mouth. I have to concede it's beyond my skillset but what a beautiful thing!
It's a vintage authentic model copied directly from one in the Martin museum. So it's hide glue construction which is good, but it doesn't have a trussrod which could be a problem for a guitar that's been swimming.
Hopefully it goes to someone with the resources to do it justice.
I've been following this with my heart in my mouth. I have to concede it's beyond my skillset but what a beautiful thing!
It's a vintage authentic model copied directly from one in the Martin museum. So it's hide glue construction which is good, but it doesn't have a trussrod which could be a problem for a guitar that's been swimming.
Hopefully it goes to someone with the resources to do it justice.
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Re: The Acoustic Thread
I’ve been looking at that one also. I’d like to imagine it could be fixed. But I don’t know of a luthier in AKL who could tackle it now Daniel has closed shop.Slowy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2023 8:27 pm https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/marketplace ... f=Ynm0blir
I've been following this with my heart in my mouth. I have to concede it's beyond my skillset but what a beautiful thing!
It's a vintage authentic model copied directly from one in the Martin museum. So it's hide glue construction which is good, but it doesn't have a trussrod which could be a problem for a guitar that's been swimming.
Hopefully it goes to someone with the resources to do it justice.
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Interesting. Had a good look at the photos and imo the water, sludge or sewage has affected the back of the guitar more than other parts. On the back it is not the binding that has come off, it is actually the back lifting out of the body so to speak. You would need to inspect the inside to see if the center strip has come loose and how badly the kerfing has been affected.Slowy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2023 8:27 pm https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/marketplace ... f=Ynm0blir
I've been following this with my heart in my mouth. I have to concede it's beyond my skillset but what a beautiful thing!
It's a vintage authentic model copied directly from one in the Martin museum. So it's hide glue construction which is good, but it doesn't have a trussrod which could be a problem for a guitar that's been swimming.
Hopefully it goes to someone with the resources to do it justice.
What is the going price for one of these in good condition?
Who said “All governments must originate in force, and be continued by force”?
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Jay, that was my prognosis too. The back is warped. I'm no expert here, but I'd imagine a repair would involve taking the back off completely, then trying the flatten those two warped pieces, then refitting (or possibly replacing) them. I think it would be a nightmare.Jay wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2023 10:16 pmInteresting. Had a good look at the photos and imo the water, sludge or sewage has affected the back of the guitar more than other parts. On the back it is not the binding that has come off, it is actually the back lifting out of the body so to speak. You would need to inspect the inside to see if the center strip has come loose and how badly the kerfing has been affected.Slowy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2023 8:27 pm https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/marketplace ... f=Ynm0blir
I've been following this with my heart in my mouth. I have to concede it's beyond my skillset but what a beautiful thing!
It's a vintage authentic model copied directly from one in the Martin museum. So it's hide glue construction which is good, but it doesn't have a trussrod which could be a problem for a guitar that's been swimming.
Hopefully it goes to someone with the resources to do it justice.
What is the going price for one of these in good condition?
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They listed at US$6000. There was only a few made. Can't find one currently for sale.Jay wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2023 10:16 pmInteresting. Had a good look at the photos and imo the water, sludge or sewage has affected the back of the guitar more than other parts. On the back it is not the binding that has come off, it is actually the back lifting out of the body so to speak. You would need to inspect the inside to see if the center strip has come loose and how badly the kerfing has been affected.Slowy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2023 8:27 pm https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/marketplace ... f=Ynm0blir
I've been following this with my heart in my mouth. I have to concede it's beyond my skillset but what a beautiful thing!
It's a vintage authentic model copied directly from one in the Martin museum. So it's hide glue construction which is good, but it doesn't have a trussrod which could be a problem for a guitar that's been swimming.
Hopefully it goes to someone with the resources to do it justice.
What is the going price for one of these in good condition?
Beyond a critical point within a finite space, freedom diminishes as numbers increase. This is as true of humans as it is of gas molecules in a sealed flask. The human question is not how many can possibly survive within the system, but what kind of existence is possible for those who so survive.
Re: The Acoustic Thread
Love the Q&A on that one. That chinese clone guy seems to pop up on every Martin listing suggesting that the Martin you are selling is a fake. I get the impression that he is trying to drive the selling price down. Has anyone ever actually seen a fake Martin ?
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Many. They're called Sigmas.vinylguy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2023 7:07 am Love the Q&A on that one. That chinese clone guy seems to pop up on every Martin listing suggesting that the Martin you are selling is a fake. I get the impression that he is trying to drive the selling price down. Has anyone ever actually seen a fake Martin ?
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Dare I ask if they are any good?Slowy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2023 7:34 amMany. They're called Sigmas.vinylguy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2023 7:07 am Love the Q&A on that one. That chinese clone guy seems to pop up on every Martin listing suggesting that the Martin you are selling is a fake. I get the impression that he is trying to drive the selling price down. Has anyone ever actually seen a fake Martin ?
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Haven't played the current crop. The old ones were solid top, laminated back and sides Martins that were perfectly fine at their price. I was playing a 25 year old Brazilian Rosewood model at the time so unfortunately I looked down on them from a great height.WellyBlues wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2023 4:21 pmDare I ask if they are any good?Slowy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2023 7:34 amMany. They're called Sigmas.vinylguy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2023 7:07 am Love the Q&A on that one. That chinese clone guy seems to pop up on every Martin listing suggesting that the Martin you are selling is a fake. I get the impression that he is trying to drive the selling price down. Has anyone ever actually seen a fake Martin ?
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That went for a decent price. Add about $1500 for some lluthier work and hopefully you end up with the guitar of your dreamsSlowy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2023 6:06 amThey listed at US$6000. There was only a few made. Can't find one currently for sale.Jay wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2023 10:16 pmInteresting. Had a good look at the photos and imo the water, sludge or sewage has affected the back of the guitar more than other parts. On the back it is not the binding that has come off, it is actually the back lifting out of the body so to speak. You would need to inspect the inside to see if the center strip has come loose and how badly the kerfing has been affected.Slowy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2023 8:27 pm https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/marketplace ... f=Ynm0blir
I've been following this with my heart in my mouth. I have to concede it's beyond my skillset but what a beautiful thing!
It's a vintage authentic model copied directly from one in the Martin museum. So it's hide glue construction which is good, but it doesn't have a trussrod which could be a problem for a guitar that's been swimming.
Hopefully it goes to someone with the resources to do it justice.
What is the going price for one of these in good condition?
Who said “All governments must originate in force, and be continued by force”?
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I see Studio 1 bought it. I suspected it might have been theirs to begin with. Insurance payout, buy it back, a couple of grand to repair in house and it might be a profitable exercise.olegmcnoleg wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2023 1:22 amJay, that was my prognosis too. The back is warped. I'm no expert here, but I'd imagine a repair would involve taking the back off completely, then trying the flatten those two warped pieces, then refitting (or possibly replacing) them. I think it would be a nightmare.Jay wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2023 10:16 pmInteresting. Had a good look at the photos and imo the water, sludge or sewage has affected the back of the guitar more than other parts. On the back it is not the binding that has come off, it is actually the back lifting out of the body so to speak. You would need to inspect the inside to see if the center strip has come loose and how badly the kerfing has been affected.Slowy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2023 8:27 pm https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/marketplace ... f=Ynm0blir
I've been following this with my heart in my mouth. I have to concede it's beyond my skillset but what a beautiful thing!
It's a vintage authentic model copied directly from one in the Martin museum. So it's hide glue construction which is good, but it doesn't have a trussrod which could be a problem for a guitar that's been swimming.
Hopefully it goes to someone with the resources to do it justice.
What is the going price for one of these in good condition?
But this is pure speculation.
Beyond a critical point within a finite space, freedom diminishes as numbers increase. This is as true of humans as it is of gas molecules in a sealed flask. The human question is not how many can possibly survive within the system, but what kind of existence is possible for those who so survive.
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Vintage1 is Studio1?Slowy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2023 5:43 pmI see Studio 1 bought it. I suspected it might have been theirs to begin with. Insurance payout, buy it back, a couple of grand to repair in house and it might be a profitable exercise.olegmcnoleg wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2023 1:22 amJay, that was my prognosis too. The back is warped. I'm no expert here, but I'd imagine a repair would involve taking the back off completely, then trying the flatten those two warped pieces, then refitting (or possibly replacing) them. I think it would be a nightmare.Jay wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2023 10:16 pm
Interesting. Had a good look at the photos and imo the water, sludge or sewage has affected the back of the guitar more than other parts. On the back it is not the binding that has come off, it is actually the back lifting out of the body so to speak. You would need to inspect the inside to see if the center strip has come loose and how badly the kerfing has been affected.
What is the going price for one of these in good condition?
But this is pure speculation.
Who said “All governments must originate in force, and be continued by force”?
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Yep.Jay wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2023 5:44 pmVintage1 is Studio1?Slowy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2023 5:43 pmI see Studio 1 bought it. I suspected it might have been theirs to begin with. Insurance payout, buy it back, a couple of grand to repair in house and it might be a profitable exercise.olegmcnoleg wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2023 1:22 am
Jay, that was my prognosis too. The back is warped. I'm no expert here, but I'd imagine a repair would involve taking the back off completely, then trying the flatten those two warped pieces, then refitting (or possibly replacing) them. I think it would be a nightmare.
But this is pure speculation.
Beyond a critical point within a finite space, freedom diminishes as numbers increase. This is as true of humans as it is of gas molecules in a sealed flask. The human question is not how many can possibly survive within the system, but what kind of existence is possible for those who so survive.
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I am aware that many Sigma models are copies of Martin Models (similar to the old Shenandoah models), I dont see them trying to pass themselves off as genuine Martins though so not the Clones to which he refers.Slowy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2023 7:34 amMany. They're called Sigmas.vinylguy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2023 7:07 am Love the Q&A on that one. That chinese clone guy seems to pop up on every Martin listing suggesting that the Martin you are selling is a fake. I get the impression that he is trying to drive the selling price down. Has anyone ever actually seen a fake Martin ?
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You are entirely correct. I stand guilty of flippancy.vinylguy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2023 7:36 pmI am aware that many Sigma models are copies of Martin Models (similar to the old Shenandoah models), I dont see them trying to pass themselves off as genuine Martins though so not the Clones to which he refers.Slowy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2023 7:34 amMany. They're called Sigmas.vinylguy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2023 7:07 am Love the Q&A on that one. That chinese clone guy seems to pop up on every Martin listing suggesting that the Martin you are selling is a fake. I get the impression that he is trying to drive the selling price down. Has anyone ever actually seen a fake Martin ?
Beyond a critical point within a finite space, freedom diminishes as numbers increase. This is as true of humans as it is of gas molecules in a sealed flask. The human question is not how many can possibly survive within the system, but what kind of existence is possible for those who so survive.