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Possibly the best place to put this, Lloyd Spiegel is doing Cole Clark guitars workshops at MusicWorks stores (5) next week.

https://www.musicworks.co.nz/cole-clark ... d-spiegel/

I'm not connected with it, just a huge Lloyd Spiegel fan.
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I went to see him a few years ago when he did the same in Nelson. I took my boy and we enjoyed it, but was only about a dozen ppl there so doubt he will visit here again.

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vinylguy wrote: Sun Jul 31, 2022 9:41 am I went to see him a few years ago when he did the same in Nelson. I took my boy and we enjoyed it, but was only about a dozen ppl there so doubt he will visit here again.
Nelson is on Tuesday at the Sprig and Fern.
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Played an interesting Yairi Rag guitar today. Really small body but very lively. Not what I was expecting to like the most. I’m looking for something that records well and sits in a mix without massive eq adjustments.
They keep telling me tone is in the fingers, but I have yet to see a "look at my fingers" thread.
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Delayman wrote: Tue Aug 02, 2022 8:34 pm Played an interesting Yairi Rag guitar today. Really small body but very lively. Not what I was expecting to like the most. I’m looking for something that records well and sits in a mix without massive eq adjustments.
What kind of music?

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olegmcnoleg wrote: Tue Aug 02, 2022 9:04 pm
Delayman wrote: Tue Aug 02, 2022 8:34 pm Played an interesting Yairi Rag guitar today. Really small body but very lively. Not what I was expecting to like the most. I’m looking for something that records well and sits in a mix without massive eq adjustments.
What kind of music?
I guess it’s rock/country/pop. I have dreadnoughts and found there is some boominess that needs to come off and then I’m left with not much in the mids and some fizzy highs. I was messing around with eq and then realised I probably don’t like the basic sound enough.
They keep telling me tone is in the fingers, but I have yet to see a "look at my fingers" thread.
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Delayman wrote: Tue Aug 02, 2022 9:30 pm
olegmcnoleg wrote: Tue Aug 02, 2022 9:04 pm
Delayman wrote: Tue Aug 02, 2022 8:34 pm Played an interesting Yairi Rag guitar today. Really small body but very lively. Not what I was expecting to like the most. I’m looking for something that records well and sits in a mix without massive eq adjustments.
What kind of music?
I guess it’s rock/country/pop. I have dreadnoughts and found there is some boominess that needs to come off and then I’m left with not much in the mids and some fizzy highs. I was messing around with eq and then realised I probably don’t like the basic sound enough.
In a modern band setting, I think it is hard to go past Taylor. The guitars seem to be built to just sit in the mix well. Not boomy at all, esp the smaller ones, and no holding mids to create feedback. Larrivee also. Taylor win because of their onboard pickup (expression).

OR

Maybe a small-bodied, mahogany guitar that will have a very characteristic sound, but in a fairly focused (mids) range. Again, easier to fit in to the mix.

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No Great love for Ovations these days is there ? Not a great Taylor fan myself but just about every solo performer and looper I see plays a Taylor....

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I find ovations are like three-year-olds: they won’t sit still on your lap. but yeah, they seem to be really out of vogue right now. I have a friend who has one of the very first ones made, with a huge body, and it sounds great.

There’s a reason all those acoustic performers use a Taylor. I do too, in a band situation.

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olegmcnoleg wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:00 am I find ovations are like three-year-olds: they won’t sit still on your lap. but yeah, they seem to be really out of vogue right now. I have a friend who has one of the very first ones made, with a huge body, and it sounds great.

There’s a reason all those acoustic performers use a Taylor. I do too, in a band situation.
Interesting on the Taylor. I played quite a few yesterday and didn’t fall I love with any. Then I saw a Lowden on trademe….and realised I’m just catching acoustic GAS.

Started out looked for a small bodied, mid freq acoustic, and spent half the night looking at reviews of a huge bodied resonant guitar.
They keep telling me tone is in the fingers, but I have yet to see a "look at my fingers" thread.
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Delayman wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:50 am
olegmcnoleg wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:00 am I find ovations are like three-year-olds: they won’t sit still on your lap. but yeah, they seem to be really out of vogue right now. I have a friend who has one of the very first ones made, with a huge body, and it sounds great.

There’s a reason all those acoustic performers use a Taylor. I do too, in a band situation.
Interesting on the Taylor. I played quite a few yesterday and didn’t fall I love with any. Then I saw a Lowden on trademe….and realised I’m just catching acoustic GAS.

Started out looked for a small bodied, mid freq acoustic, and spent half the night looking at reviews of a huge bodied resonant guitar.
I love the idea of tiny little Martin and Lowden acoustics. Then I pick up my Grand Auditorium and immediately forget about anything smaller.

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Delayman wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:50 am
olegmcnoleg wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:00 am I find ovations are like three-year-olds: they won’t sit still on your lap. but yeah, they seem to be really out of vogue right now. I have a friend who has one of the very first ones made, with a huge body, and it sounds great.

There’s a reason all those acoustic performers use a Taylor. I do too, in a band situation.
Interesting on the Taylor. I played quite a few yesterday and didn’t fall I love with any. Then I saw a Lowden on trademe….and realised I’m just catching acoustic GAS.

Started out looked for a small bodied, mid freq acoustic, and spent half the night looking at reviews of a huge bodied resonant guitar.
YESSS, buy that Lowden. Such an awesome guitar. It will be a very rewarding instrument to play. You could always put a feedback suppressor in the soundhole when you are playing with a band. Or buy a smaller Sheeran Lowden--also great but easier live.

Or if you want something cheaper, but still decent, and in a similar vein to taylor, there's this: https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/marketplace ... f=c4X4gIzF

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olegmcnoleg wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 7:09 am
Delayman wrote: Tue Aug 02, 2022 9:30 pm
olegmcnoleg wrote: Tue Aug 02, 2022 9:04 pm

What kind of music?
I guess it’s rock/country/pop. I have dreadnoughts and found there is some boominess that needs to come off and then I’m left with not much in the mids and some fizzy highs. I was messing around with eq and then realised I probably don’t like the basic sound enough.
In a modern band setting, I think it is hard to go past Taylor. The guitars seem to be built to just sit in the mix well. Not boomy at all, esp the smaller ones, and no holding mids to create feedback. Larrivee also. Taylor win because of their onboard pickup (expression).

OR

Maybe a small-bodied, mahogany guitar that will have a very characteristic sound, but in a fairly focused (mids) range. Again, easier to fit in to the mix.
I have not tried Taylor's onboard system, but Cole Clark's one is bloody amazing.

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robthemac wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 10:15 am
I love the idea of tiny little Martin and Lowden acoustics. Then I pick up my Grand Auditorium and immediately forget about anything smaller.
I love the idea of big bodied Martin and Lowden acoustics. Then I pick up my small Lowden and immediately forget about anything larger.

Probably says more about the individual instruments than anything else. :D
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Delayman wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:50 am
olegmcnoleg wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:00 am I find ovations are like three-year-olds: they won’t sit still on your lap. but yeah, they seem to be really out of vogue right now. I have a friend who has one of the very first ones made, with a huge body, and it sounds great.

There’s a reason all those acoustic performers use a Taylor. I do too, in a band situation.
Interesting on the Taylor. I played quite a few yesterday and didn’t fall I love with any. Then I saw a Lowden on trademe….and realised I’m just catching acoustic GAS.

Started out looked for a small bodied, mid freq acoustic, and spent half the night looking at reviews of a huge bodied resonant guitar.
My Taylor GS7 is steadily turning into a superb guitar. But as an amplified performance tool, it's as close to perfect and trouble free as you could wish.
I've never met a Taylor that stirred my passions. They seem to build respect over time with their willing, hassle free competence.
"We were playing so loud that just one note on the guitar was sufficient".
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