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Re: The Acoustic Thread

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codedog wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 7:36 pm
Jay wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 6:16 pm
Slowy wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 4:53 pm https://reverb.com/item/53225669-lowden ... 45-60-neck

I hate exchange rates. My dream Lowden in my chosen wood combination has now become stratospherically unaffordable. :(
Beautiful, but I wonder about the longevity of that bridge design
What aspect of the design in particular made you wonder?
In that closeup bridge shot, once the string leaves the saddle towards the hole in the bridge, it appears that there is a break angle, ie resulting in string friction in the hole, ie wear.

The other thing that I wonder, is if a horizontal crack would develop between the 'end ball' holes, the string tension might just rip the top off that bridge section.

I am sure Mr Lowden's engineers have faith in it, but will it last 50 plus years?
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Jay wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 8:28 pm
codedog wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 7:36 pm
Jay wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 6:16 pm

Beautiful, but I wonder about the longevity of that bridge design
What aspect of the design in particular made you wonder?
In that closeup bridge shot, once the string leaves the saddle towards the hole in the bridge, it appears that there is a break angle, ie resulting in string friction in the hole, ie wear.

The other thing that I wonder, is if a horizontal crack would develop between the 'end ball' holes, the string tension might just rip the top off that bridge section.

I am sure Mr Lowden's engineers have faith in it, but will it last 50 plus years?
That's pretty much how my Breedlove bridge was designed, albeit a fraction of the cost.

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Jay wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 8:28 pm
codedog wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 7:36 pm
Jay wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 6:16 pm

Beautiful, but I wonder about the longevity of that bridge design
What aspect of the design in particular made you wonder?
In that closeup bridge shot, once the string leaves the saddle towards the hole in the bridge, it appears that there is a break angle, ie resulting in string friction in the hole, ie wear.

The other thing that I wonder, is if a horizontal crack would develop between the 'end ball' holes, the string tension might just rip the top off that bridge section.

I am sure Mr Lowden's engineers have faith in it, but will it last 50 plus years?
I think it will, the design dates to the early 80s, I've not heard of any complaints or concerns so far.

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codedog wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 8:44 pm
Jay wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 8:28 pm
codedog wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 7:36 pm

What aspect of the design in particular made you wonder?
In that closeup bridge shot, once the string leaves the saddle towards the hole in the bridge, it appears that there is a break angle, ie resulting in string friction in the hole, ie wear.

The other thing that I wonder, is if a horizontal crack would develop between the 'end ball' holes, the string tension might just rip the top off that bridge section.

I am sure Mr Lowden's engineers have faith in it, but will it last 50 plus years?
That's pretty much how my Breedlove bridge was designed, albeit a fraction of the cost.

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That Breedlove is an excellent instrument, no corners were cut in its manufacture.

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Most of the Breedloves I have had ,had a bridge doctor bracing system underneath the bridge fitted as standard, though that one doesnt seem to have one. Ovation have also used a pinless bridge forever on their guitars with no issues.

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vinylguy wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 5:59 am Most of the Breedloves I have had ,had a bridge doctor bracing system underneath the bridge fitted as standard, though that one doesnt seem to have one. Ovation have also used a pinless bridge forever on their guitars with no issues.
That's interesting. Mine doesn't have it either.

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Jay wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 8:28 pm
What aspect of the design in particular made you wonder?
In that closeup bridge shot, once the string leaves the saddle towards the hole in the bridge, it appears that there is a break angle, ie resulting in string friction in the hole, ie wear.

The other thing that I wonder, is if a horizontal crack would develop between the 'end ball' holes, the string tension might just rip the top off that bridge section.

I am sure Mr Lowden's engineers have faith in it, but will it last 50 plus years?
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To fair my Lowden is 35 years old, original bridge and no issue. I think it will do 50 years no sweat. Lowdens have a low string tension compared to other guitars, mostly because of that bridge.

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I found my Martin's Japanese half sister yesterday.
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Had a play on a Big Bay Taylor. Quite impressed with the neck feel, almost like an electric and despite it being a bold on. Smaller body still projects loud enough and very balanced. Looks budget but once you play it that is easily forgotten. Now why don't the Rockshop have these on special?
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Jay wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 4:41 pm Had a play on a Big Bay Taylor. Quite impressed with the neck feel, almost like an electric and despite it being a bold on. Smaller body still projects loud enough and very balanced. Looks budget but once you play it that is easily forgotten. Now why don't the Rockshop have these on special?
Yes, they are fun guitars, and give a surprisingly good sound. I think the GS-Minis are better, in terms of fun and overall tonal balance.

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olegmcnoleg wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:59 pm
Jay wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 4:41 pm Had a play on a Big Bay Taylor. Quite impressed with the neck feel, almost like an electric and despite it being a bold on. Smaller body still projects loud enough and very balanced. Looks budget but once you play it that is easily forgotten. Now why don't the Rockshop have these on special?
Yes, they are fun guitars, and give a surprisingly good sound. I think the GS-Minis are better, in terms of fun and overall tonal balance.
At twice the price though. There's one on TM right now but I just realised is has a 4 piece top. Unusual?
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Jay wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:34 pm
olegmcnoleg wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:59 pm
Jay wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 4:41 pm Had a play on a Big Bay Taylor. Quite impressed with the neck feel, almost like an electric and despite it being a bold on. Smaller body still projects loud enough and very balanced. Looks budget but once you play it that is easily forgotten. Now why don't the Rockshop have these on special?
Yes, they are fun guitars, and give a surprisingly good sound. I think the GS-Minis are better, in terms of fun and overall tonal balance.
At twice the price though. There's one on TM right now but I just realised is has a 4 piece top. Unusual?
I thought so.
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I played a GS mini in Koa at the RS in dunners and thought they were a great little guitar. I think they are laminate not solid wood though ? Im watching that one on TM too just in case my Martin sells....

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