Hmm...lots of money buy 50's, then 60's, then 90's, then early 2000's, then 80's then 70's...in that order.
"Man is the most insane species. He worships an invisible god and destroys a visible nature. Unaware that this nature he's destroying is this god he's worshipping." - Hubert Reeves
I'm boring I know, but how about playing a bunch and buying the one you like most?
Put another way, nobody else cares about your wood.
Beyond a critical point within a finite space, freedom diminishes as numbers increase. This is as true of humans as it is of gas molecules in a sealed flask. The human question is not how many can possibly survive within the system, but what kind of existence is possible for those who so survive.
Swietenia macrophylla usually. It's a species of mahogany that grows in South America and typically sourced from Honduras.
There's numerous plantations of the stuff in Fiji too that were planted by the British in the 40s and 50s. There's a suppler of it in Auckland somewhere who sells fantastic stuff.
The stuff like kyaha, sapele, aren't real mahoganies (botanically) but since they similar colour, grain, weight, density etc they get called 'African mahogany' or what have you.
Cheers for your help.
It's a sobering read and a shame to see its classified as vulnerable conservation status.
With the way the world is, don't think I'll ever buy a new guitar again.
Generally they always used Swietenia macrophylla ie so called "genuine mahogany", but they switched supply from South America to Fiji cicra 2008 IIRC. The Fijian stuff are still good though.
They do use different grades for different lines. R9's without weight relief are often lighter than Traditional's with 9-hole relief.
Slowy wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 5:34 pm
I'm boring I know, but how about playing a bunch and buying the one you like most?
Put another way, nobody else cares about your wood.
This is of course the correct answer. If it sounds good and plays good, it is good (I'm on repeat I know)...I have a '73 Les Paul Custom which, through my /13 BTR23 is so killer, I can't imagine letting it go ever. And it is entirely mahogany...so sign of maple in any part of it! And it's light. Go figure.
But buy 50's.
"Man is the most insane species. He worships an invisible god and destroys a visible nature. Unaware that this nature he's destroying is this god he's worshipping." - Hubert Reeves
Sleep wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 5:55 pm
Cheers for your help.
It's a sobering read and a shame to see its classified as vulnerable conservation status.
With the way the world is, don't think I'll ever buy a new guitar again.
The great thing is, you don't have to. There are more guitars in existence than we can ever aspire to fully utilise as a world population, at least based on recent extrapolations showing we as a species, are in decline.
Are we all having fun?
"Man is the most insane species. He worships an invisible god and destroys a visible nature. Unaware that this nature he's destroying is this god he's worshipping." - Hubert Reeves
Sleep wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 5:55 pm
With the way the world is, don't think I'll ever buy a new guitar again.
I won't, because I'm unlikely to live long enough to play it in. But some of the finest guitars ever made are being made right now. They don't use traditional woods but that just means work has been put into learning what else works and what its character is. And there's plenty of great wood out there.
Historical artefacts and musical tools are two different things that get constantly confused in people's minds.
Beyond a critical point within a finite space, freedom diminishes as numbers increase. This is as true of humans as it is of gas molecules in a sealed flask. The human question is not how many can possibly survive within the system, but what kind of existence is possible for those who so survive.
GrantB wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 7:26 pm
..........recent extrapolations showing we as a species, are in decline.
Data please.
Beyond a critical point within a finite space, freedom diminishes as numbers increase. This is as true of humans as it is of gas molecules in a sealed flask. The human question is not how many can possibly survive within the system, but what kind of existence is possible for those who so survive.
"Man is the most insane species. He worships an invisible god and destroys a visible nature. Unaware that this nature he's destroying is this god he's worshipping." - Hubert Reeves
werdna wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 8:47 pm
I can't understand the hand wringing by economists over population decline. We're down to our last 8 billion ...
I’d like to respond but with respect to the original post, I think that’s a different topic, despite my introduction of the theme.
Is is the old idea of “everything matters and nothing matters”.
"Man is the most insane species. He worships an invisible god and destroys a visible nature. Unaware that this nature he's destroying is this god he's worshipping." - Hubert Reeves
I thought it would make for an interesting discussion.
In contrast, the Gibson mahogany question has been gone over many times. It always lands with true generalisations countered by someone saying every guitar is different.
In life, don't sweat the petty stuff, and don't pet the sweaty stuff.
werdna wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 9:57 pm
I thought it would make for an interesting discussion.
In contrast, the Gibson mahogany question has been gone over many times. It always lands with true generalisations countered by someone saying every guitar is different.
Good summary. Just let me add you might not want to be holding Ryman shares in 15 years time.
Beyond a critical point within a finite space, freedom diminishes as numbers increase. This is as true of humans as it is of gas molecules in a sealed flask. The human question is not how many can possibly survive within the system, but what kind of existence is possible for those who so survive.
