Les Paul v 335 - can you really hear the difference?

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Re: Les Paul v 335 - can you really hear the difference?

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Guessed by no one. I rest my case. πŸ˜‚

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Grayson314 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 8:14 pm And the 335 is guitar number 4!
What were 2 and 3 ?
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Re: Les Paul v 335 - can you really hear the difference?

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Dharmajester wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:41 pm
Grayson314 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 8:14 pm And the 335 is guitar number 4!
What were 2 and 3 ?
1: 2018 R7 w/ seth lovers
2: 2011 R8 w/ antiquities
3: 2018 R8 w/custombuckers
4: 2013 ES 185VNT Tokai Japan

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mr_sooty wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:04 pm Guessed by no one. I rest my case. πŸ˜‚
Well if this truly is a competition, your case is flawed. The thread title is "Les Paul v 335 - can you really hear the difference?" and not "Guess which one is the Tokai 335"


So "Not Proven".
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Grayson314 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:42 am
Dharmajester wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:41 pm
Grayson314 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 8:14 pm And the 335 is guitar number 4!
What were 2 and 3 ?
1: 2018 R7 w/ seth lovers
2: 2011 R8 w/ antiquities
3: 2018 R8 w/custombuckers
4: 2013 ES 185VNT Tokai Japan
Now I know what they are, the differences are obvious.







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Re: Les Paul v 335 - can you really hear the difference?

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For myself when I play either of these types of guitar and they're hanging at the end of a strap, vibrating against my gentlemans area, I feel a solid 'rock riffing madness' with the lp and a 'sustaining jangle fullness' with the 335. That's how they feel (to me) to play. I would imagine, if this wasn't down to recorded sounds most people listen to on phones, and was actually raw, visceral experience, most might think similar.
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Fundamentally they're both terrible guitars because they can't do a 4th position strat tone.
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jeremyb wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:17 am Fundamentally they're both great guitars because they can't do the overused 4th position strat tone.
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Every strat tone is an overused tone.

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Starfire wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:33 am Every strat tone is an overused tone.
You can't overuse perfection.
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jeremyb wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:42 am
Starfire wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:33 am Every strat tone is an overused tone.
You can't overuse perfection.
#opinionuntilyoubuya335oralespaulandthenthatstheopinionuntilyoubuysomethingelsethattakesyourfancybasedonthingsanartistyoulikesaidandthatwillenevitablyandforeverchange :D
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Grayson314 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:42 am
Dharmajester wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:41 pm
What were 2 and 3 ?
1: 2018 R7 w/ seth lovers
2: 2011 R8 w/ antiquities
3: 2018 R8 w/custombuckers
4: 2013 ES 185VNT Tokai Japan
Interesting, my ears evidently have a preference for R8's :wink:
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kdawg2a wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:04 am
jeremyb wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:42 am
Starfire wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:33 am Every strat tone is an overused tone.
You can't overuse perfection.
#opinionuntilyoubuya335oralespaulandthenthatstheopinionuntilyoubuysomethingelsethattakesyourfancybasedonthingsanartistyoulikesaidandthatwillenevitablyandforeverchange :D
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Bg wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:20 am
mr_sooty wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:04 pm Guessed by no one. I rest my case. πŸ˜‚
Well if this truly is a competition, your case is flawed. The thread title is "Les Paul v 335 - can you really hear the difference?" and not "Guess which one is the Tokai 335"


So "Not Proven".
If the difference between a 335 and an LP is obvious, you would be able to easily pick which one is a 335 when three sounds are an LP and one is a 335. It would be more obvious because three of the guitars would have that characteristic you associate with LPs and the one that's different would stand out more. Yes one is a different brand (a very well regarded, nitro finished, near exact replica), but that theoretically would make it more obvious rather than less. So if a bunch of guitar enthusiasts obsessed enough with guitar tone to be part of a guitar forum can't pick out a 335 from a line up where three aren't and one is, then I would think it was at least some way towards proven that it is extremely difficult to hear the difference.

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mr_sooty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 12:00 pm
Bg wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:20 am
mr_sooty wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:04 pm Guessed by no one. I rest my case. πŸ˜‚
Well if this truly is a competition, your case is flawed. The thread title is "Les Paul v 335 - can you really hear the difference?" and not "Guess which one is the Tokai 335"


So "Not Proven".
If the difference between a 335 and an LP is obvious, you would be able to easily pick which one is a 335 when three sounds are an LP and one is a 335. It would be more obvious because three of the guitars would have that characteristic you associate with LPs and the one that's different would stand out more. Yes one is a different brand (a very well regarded, nitro finished, near exact replica), but that theoretically would make it more obvious rather than less. So if a bunch of guitar enthusiasts obsessed enough with guitar tone to be part of a guitar forum can't pick out a 335 from a line up where three aren't and one is, then I would think it was at least some way towards proven that it is extremely difficult to hear the difference.
I'm on this forum and I couldn't give two shits about what is perceved as good 'guitar tone'. Think of what the average public persona thinks about guitar 'tone'. Agreed. Just play the damn song and let the people dance!
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