What pedals can't be recreated by modellers?

[Zaulkin]

What pedal would you recommend that would go well with a Multi-fx unit, or what is something that modellers can't do yet?

I am slowly reorganising my board and it looks like I have room for one more pedal, ideally at the start of the chain. With modelling these days though, there's almost no need - there's already a gazillion drives, amp blocks, delays etc. What more could you want?

It got me thinking about what other pedals I could check out to make my board even better, or just to achieve a cool sound that is unique. I could consider a delay/reverb to free up some DSP, find a really cool drive/always on pedal, or perhaps something unique like a FreQ Out.

Some people really prefer analog pedals for certain jobs. Thoughts?

[Kris]

POG2.thers nothing even close ive found that nails it.maybe im thinking more in vst terms but no multi ive come across does as good a job either.

[Michael]

Any analog drive. It just isn't the same..

[Zaulkin]

Any analog drive. It just isn't the same..

What about on an AxeFX?

[jeremyb]

Any analog drive. It just isn't the same..

I'm the same, I reckon you need a drive pedal (or 7) with any digital rig.

[Bg]

Pog maybe, but drive pedals. You're having a larf.

[griff]

Any analog drive. It just isn't the same..

What about on an AxeFX?

Apparently the new pedal algorithms in the Axe III are bang on and you cant tell the difference now. Except for the fuzzes, which are supposed to be a lot harder to clone digitally.

[StratMatt]

I like having an ID before my AX8 that gives me the same push on whatever patch I'm on so I don't need to write it in each time, but that's more for convenience and saving a footswitch space. I agree though that the multis usually can't do pitch stuff as well as the real thing.

I run a Whammy DT first a lot of the time but that sits off to the side. Maybe look at a Pitchfork or something? I actually like having my El Capistan in a fx loop too, it's nice to manipulate the pedal itself.

[HackSaw]

The other day I was running a Boss SD1 in front of the Axe FX with an SD1 model set up. (Plexi Patch). I couldn’t hear or feel the slightest bit of difference between the pedal and the model. (Note I couldn’t, is not the same as you wouldn’t!)

[Zaulkin]

I like having an ID before my AX8 that gives me the same push on whatever patch I'm on so I don't need to write it in each time, but that's more for convenience and saving a footswitch space. I agree though that the multis usually can't do pitch stuff as well as the real thing.

I run a Whammy DT first a lot of the time but that sits off to the side. Maybe look at a Pitchfork or something? I actually like having my El Capistan in a fx loop too, it's nice to manipulate the pedal itself.

I think I'm alright with the pitch block, but I mostly use it to rip up 2 octaves and back. I do like those Digitech ricochet pedals if I had an issue.

Might try the Freq-out and if I get bored of it, change to an OD. Definitely would like to free up DSP on the FM3 - I see a few pedal geeks using the specular tempus for that. But ugh, midi! Effort! And I don't use crazy verbs that much. But I could ...

[griff]

Aah didn't realise you had an Fm3 Nik.. you dig it? Wondering if I should sell my Axe II to get one.. hmmmm

[StratMatt]

Aah didn't realise you had an Fm3 Nik.. you dig it? Wondering if I should sell my Axe II to get one.. hmmmm

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[HackSaw]

3 > 2.

[Zaulkin]

Aah didn't realise you had an Fm3 Nik.. you dig it? Wondering if I should sell my Axe II to get one.. hmmmm

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I think if you are happy with how the AxeFX II is in terms of controlling it, then the sound difference isn't that huge between them. I love the fractal rack stuff but a floor board is way more convenient for me right now.

I think both the FM3 and AX8 sound awesome. I love the big screen on the new one and how the footswitches can do so much, but yeah, having only 3 is tight so I'm adding an external switch. I don't need to tap dance so I don't think I need midi.

I am going to be keeping the FM3 because I like that it's smaller and for the other reasons stated. Saying that I still think the AX8 is killer and still an amazing unit - it's even better in some ways and so reliable.

[griff]

Thanks. Yeah Axe II sounds incredible as is and can still do dual amps.. not that I use it too often. My MFC is a big hunky dory thing, but has heaps of options for live switching.