What is your girth?

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Re: What is your girth?

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Slowy wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:33 pm
Jay wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:57 am What is a Black Benny? Have I seen it? Can you please re-check the middle measurement?
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Oh all right, 120 for the #6 position.
I googled Black Benny and Bernadetto's popped up. For a moment I thought you had one of these:

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I suppose describing neck profiles through referencing a single measurement (well, 3 actually) is as fraught as describing pickups through only their DC resistance. There are so many more variables...

However, your feedback has been valuable to me as it gives me an anchor point for future necks that I will be making. Happy to add some more necks to the spreadsheet.

It is good to know that by far the biggest neck (Tri-cone) in this table, is still described as comfy, so I think my Duovette neck will be fine (for some)...

The other interesting thing that came out of this, was that some of you were surprised how your neck measurements compared to your perception of that particular neck profile. So thanks for your feedback.

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Yep I think height and width of frets go a long way as well. Let me know if you want more measurements, I'll borrow the wifes sewing tape measure and I'll throw some stats your way
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Bg wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 2:40 pm Yep I think height and width of frets go a long way as well. Let me know if you want more measurements, I'll borrow the wifes sewing tape measure and I'll throw some stats your way
Perhaps a couple of what you think are your slimmest and biggest necks? But use paper as the sewing tape is kind of stretchy, at least ours is.
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I'll get onto it, slimmest neck is a JS100 I believe, fattest neck would be my tricone, but you already have that. And its only comfortable to play slide on and not comfortable for anything else past about the 9th fret. Unless you have slowy sized hands (freak)
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Ok, I'll play.

This was a very surprising exercise for me, and certainly fingerboard width should be taken into account, as my Jag (which I always perceived as being medium) and my Nocaster (chunky) ended up with very similar results.

Johnny Marr Jaguar: 11.1, 12.0, 13.1 - C - Medium
Nocaster: 11.1, 12.2, 12.9 - C - Chunky
Rickenbacker 330: 11.0, 11.7, 12.3 - Flat U - Medium
Greco LP: 11.1, 12.1, 13.1 - Soft V - Chunky

Without considering other variables, and somewhat disregarding the outlier of the 6th and 12th fret on the Ricky (who plays all the way up there anyhow?), it seems I have a "type". Curious.
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Jonny wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:55 pm Ok, I'll play.

This was a very surprising exercise for me, and certainly fingerboard width should be taken into account, as my Jag (which I always perceived as being medium) and my Nocaster (chunky) ended up with very similar results.

Johnny Marr Jaguar: 11.1, 12.0, 13.1 - C - Medium
Nocaster: 11.1, 12.2, 12.9 - C - Chunky
Rickenbacker 330: 11.0, 11.7, 12.3 - Flat U - Medium
Greco LP: 11.1, 12.1, 13.1 - Soft V - Chunky

Without considering other variables, and somewhat disregarding the outlier of the 6th and 12th fret on the Ricky (who plays all the way up there anyhow?), it seems I have a "type". Curious.
Cool, i'll put yours in the spreadsheet too. I am interested in Oleg's chunky neck measurements.... Oleg, you there?
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1963 Strat 10.75, 12.2, 13.05 More C at the 1st transitioning to a D at the 12th

1963 Jazzmaster 10.95, 12.35, 13.05 More C than D but more D at the 1st than the strat above transitioning to a D at the 12th

1968 ES335TD 10.70, 11.7, 12.95 C shape

1992 Les Paul 11.2, 12.1, 14.7 C shape

I'm not sure how much this measurement really tells you as the fret size, width vs depth and shape really changes the feel of the neck in the hands.

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Thanks Jonny, Voxshall, updated spreadsheet with your guitars and re-ranked them on an average of the 3 measurements. Agree that a single measurement doesn't tell the neck story, other that that it provides a simplistic view of 'neck bulk'. At least it gives me a range of what different manufacturers are able to achieve with a given circumference.

With the new ranking, I note that my latest build is the 'fattest'. I hope to get some honest feedback from you guys at the pending gearfest... which may result in neck surgery...

The 14.7 for the 1992 LP stands out, any chance of double check?

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Whitfill Tele: 11.0, 12.2, 13.4, U-neck
Ibanez LR-10: 11.0, 11.8, 12.9, C
Fender Custom Shop 1960 Strat: 10.7, 11.8, 12.7, C

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Quite right regarding the LP it's 14 on the button (over an inch depth , maybe 1.1 from memory) and in apology I'll give you bonus measurements.

1982 Bullet neck 11.2, 11.9, 12.7 Between a soft V and a C moving to a C at the 12th
1963 Gibson Southern Jumbo 11.5, 12.6, 15.1 C the 12th measurement is sloping to the body joint.

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Updated table with Voxshall and robthemac additions. After neck reshaping, my Duovette has moved up two in the chunky league...

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Couple more...

Fender Am Original 60's Tele 11.0, 12.1, 12.9 60's C 9.5" radius
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Re: What is your girth?

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Ok, here's my fattest neck...

Lindsay Marks Model 0 parlor guitar. It is a 12 fret guitar, so measuring at the 12th fret produces a huge score, which would include all of the heel. So you might want to substitute the measurement at the 9th fret*

Fret 1: 12.6
Fret 6: 13.5
Fret 9*: 14.3
Fret 12; 28.0

It is a wide neck also, about 48mm. It feels quite like a classical guitar to play--but not quite as wide

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Post by olegmcnoleg »

Wait, not my fattest...

Larrivee LS03 Classical guitar...same as above, it is 12 fret guitar, so the 12th fret measurement is meaningless. Fretboard is 50mm wide. The measurements are about normal for a classical guitar.

Fret 1: 13
Fret 6: 14.2
Fret 9*: 15
Fret 12; 25.0

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