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Re: NGD - Gibson LEs Paul Classic

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olegmcnoleg wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:42 pm
Guys, this is making me most uncomfortable. If one of us had found out that Raid0 or Goldplated had their mates bidding up their auctions, we would be up in arms and complaining to TM.

How is this different? (a genuine question)
Valid question. I have done this but I have a distinction. I'll bid in the early stages of an auction where the price is unrealistically low. So I'll help a mate to kickstart some activity. What I'll never do is push the top bidder at the pointy end of the auction to improve his return.

Interested to hear opinions on the morality of that and I'll go cut some wire from the fence in case chastisement is required.
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Re: NGD - Gibson LEs Paul Classic

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I don't see much problem in that, its just the whole bidding thing by a mate that doesn't actually want to buy it - what if thats the winning bid. How would you feel to be outbid by a few dollars and then find this out?

Its an area that shouldn't really be publicised and then we wouldn't have to be disapproving.
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Re: NGD - Gibson LEs Paul Classic

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Bg wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:07 pm
jeremyb wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 5:48 pm
olegmcnoleg wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:42 pm
Guys, this is making me most uncomfortable. If one of us had found out that Raid0 or Goldplated had their mates bidding up their auctions, we would be up in arms and complaining to TM.

How is this different? (a genuine question)
Well raid0 and goldplated don't have any mates, so this is fine :lol:
if you complain about capo guitars or goldplated again, you're banned for being hypocritical...
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Re: NGD - Gibson LEs Paul Classic

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Didn't there used to be a member on here who would bid up items he thought were selling too cheap? I think he won a few auctions and never intended to complete the trade, he just didnt think they should sell cheaply.

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Re: NGD - Gibson LEs Paul Classic

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Bg wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:41 pm
I don't see much problem in that, its just the whole bidding thing by a mate that doesn't actually want to buy it - what if thats the winning bid. How would you feel to be outbid by a few dollars and then find this out?

Its an area that shouldn't really be publicised and then we wouldn't have to be disapproving.
Surely you're not advocating censorship? :shock:
I'd always honour my bid but I'd feel pretty sick picking up a mate's Les Paul for $1600
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Re: NGD - Gibson LEs Paul Classic

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Lyle wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:01 pm
Didn't there used to be a member on here who would bid up items he thought were selling too cheap? I think he won a few auctions and never intended to complete the trade, he just didnt think they should sell cheaply.
Ah Mr Byrdo. Suspect he's still at it.
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Re: NGD - Gibson LEs Paul Classic

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Slowy wrote:
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Bg wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:41 pm
I don't see much problem in that, its just the whole bidding thing by a mate that doesn't actually want to buy it - what if thats the winning bid. How would you feel to be outbid by a few dollars and then find this out?

Its an area that shouldn't really be publicised and then we wouldn't have to be disapproving.
Surely you're not advocating censorship? :shock:
I'd always honour my bid but I'd feel pretty sick picking up a mate's Les Paul for $1600
Its not censorship If I find it distasteful and don't want to know its being done by people I would think better of. It would be censorship if I deleted this thread. Your moderation powers have just been banned.

We've all bid mates dollar reserves up by a few bucks to get them kick started, but up to the point where its basically the 'reserve' price that the seller wants? Nah, it shouldn't really be accepted as a norm.
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Re: NGD - Gibson LEs Paul Classic

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Slowy wrote:
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Lyle wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:01 pm
Didn't there used to be a member on here who would bid up items he thought were selling too cheap? I think he won a few auctions and never intended to complete the trade, he just didnt think they should sell cheaply.
Ah Mr Byrdo. Suspect he's still at it.
Yes, he did it on mine a few months ago, luckily another, aggressive bidder, went much higher... Should have blacklisted him but in this case it worked out okay.
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Re: NGD - Gibson LEs Paul Classic

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Bg wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:51 pm
Slowy wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:14 pm
Bg wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:41 pm
I don't see much problem in that, its just the whole bidding thing by a mate that doesn't actually want to buy it - what if thats the winning bid. How would you feel to be outbid by a few dollars and then find this out?

Its an area that shouldn't really be publicised and then we wouldn't have to be disapproving.
Surely you're not advocating censorship? :shock:
I'd always honour my bid but I'd feel pretty sick picking up a mate's Les Paul for $1600
Its not censorship If I find it distasteful and don't want to know its being done by people I would think better of. It would be censorship if I deleted this thread. Your moderation powers have just been banned.

We've all bid mates dollar reserves up by a few bucks to get them kick started, but up to the point where its basically the 'reserve' price that the seller wants? Nah, it shouldn't really be accepted as a norm.
And good for Oleg for calling it out, I just skimmed the thread till that point.

Come on chaps, if you're going to do it, at least be decent and hide the fact.

We all do the odd workaround trademe's gouging fee, but this is a bit different.
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Re: NGD - Gibson LEs Paul Classic

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and thats probably enough on the subject :)
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There’s a few posts on here that don’t sit right with me. Add to that over the last month there’s been a couple of forum members that have made me feel pretty low

So might be a good time to call it a day and I’ll just ride off into the distance on a silvery unicorn. Laters
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Re: NGD - Gibson LEs Paul Classic

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Mini Forklift wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 11:11 pm
There’s a few posts on here that don’t sit right with me. Add to that over the last month there’s been a couple of forum members that have made me feel pretty low

So might be a good time to call it a day and I’ll just ride off into the distance on a silvery unicorn. Laters
Dude! We've all gone thru stages like this, take some time out for sure, but come back eh! The place is better for having you and everyone else here :)

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