Return of the Gibbons shocker thread!
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Re: Return of the Gibson shocker thread!
Who the heck knows. There are oodles of single cut shapes out there. I have no bloody idea what Gibson is trying to enforce anymore.
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Re: Return of the Gibson shocker thread!
"Equity aids the vigilant, not those who slumber on their rights." If Gibson did not act to prevent copies of its designs being made, it would lose its right to those designs. It may only be a couple of copies each year, but it is a big principle in law.
Besides, Gibson's action has resulted in a new design, which surely is a good thing.
Besides, Gibson's action has resulted in a new design, which surely is a good thing.
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Yeah I reckon Gibson fires across the bows of "competitors" (however small) as a deterrent. It serves to demonstrate that they're vigilant and serious. And it maintains the perceived value of their $10K+ guitars.
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Re: Return of the Gibson shocker thread!
this was the essence of a literal 'lawsuit' not like the bullshit ones people frequently make up to increase the price of their shit guitars
https://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-6th-circuit/1362636.html
if you can be bothered to decipher...
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A judgment that will go down in history: 'Finally, Gibson argues that, taken together, the initial-interest-confusion and post-sale-confusion doctrines should be extended to include something that we can only describe as a “smoky-bar theory of confusion”...Gibson does not suggest that consumer confusion as to the manufacturer of a PRS guitar would lead a potential purchaser to consider purchasing a PRS, rather than a Gibson, or that Gibson's reputation is harmed by poor-quality PRS guitars. Rather, Gibson argues that this confusion occurs when potential purchasers see a musician playing a PRS guitar and believe it to be a Gibson guitar.'
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The court's response:Litterick wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 9:25 pm A judgment that will go down in history: 'Finally, Gibson argues that, taken together, the initial-interest-confusion and post-sale-confusion doctrines should be extended to include something that we can only describe as a “smoky-bar theory of confusion”...Gibson does not suggest that consumer confusion as to the manufacturer of a PRS guitar would lead a potential purchaser to consider purchasing a PRS, rather than a Gibson, or that Gibson's reputation is harmed by poor-quality PRS guitars. Rather, Gibson argues that this confusion occurs when potential purchasers see a musician playing a PRS guitar and believe it to be a Gibson guitar.'
If a budding musician sees an individual he or she admires playing a PRS guitar, but believes it to be a Gibson guitar, the logical result would be that the budding musician would go out and purchase a Gibson guitar. Gibson is helped, rather than harmed, by any such confusion.
I thought lawyers were supposed to be smart at arguing.....
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Re: Return of the Gibson shocker thread!
So, the Dusk Tiger is just GIbson's way of bolstering their lawsuit? Because they didn't have anything with a gaudy enough finish to be confused for a PRS?
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Tube amp and guitar tones straight from 1958… amazing how believable the sounds were back then, even without the modellers...
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Dude, I would totally have a dusky tiger! what you saying!
I just wish I'd had the foresight...
https://reverb.com/p/gibson-dusk-tiger- ... -2010-2011
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Fuuuuck I though these would have tanked in value, not skyrocketed. Still rather have the Hello Kitty Strat.Bg wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 3:59 pmDude, I would totally have a dusky tiger! what you saying!
I just wish I'd had the foresight...
https://reverb.com/p/gibson-dusk-tiger- ... -2010-2011
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well yeah, but I'd sell the misty buff tiger to buy hello kittys!
people even collect training shoes, so its to be expected...
people even collect training shoes, so its to be expected...
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You going for the one on TM?robthemac wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 4:28 pmFuuuuck I though these would have tanked in value, not skyrocketed. Still rather have the Hello Kitty Strat.Bg wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 3:59 pmDude, I would totally have a dusky tiger! what you saying!
I just wish I'd had the foresight...
https://reverb.com/p/gibson-dusk-tiger- ... -2010-2011
And a mad price listing for a Dusk Tiger does not define it's value.
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The sale prices do, though.
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The one I posted was from reverb… dude they do sell well. They’re probably pristine and never played, at least by a musician anywaySlowy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 6:29 pmYou going for the one on TM?robthemac wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 4:28 pmFuuuuck I though these would have tanked in value, not skyrocketed. Still rather have the Hello Kitty Strat.Bg wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 3:59 pm
Dude, I would totally have a dusky tiger! what you saying!
I just wish I'd had the foresight...
https://reverb.com/p/gibson-dusk-tiger- ... -2010-2011
And a mad price listing for a Dusk Tiger does not define it's value.
So, is that low alcohol or no alcohol at all? mmmm, no alcohol, do you want to try it? Noooooooooo.