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Re: 'New' Offset Restored Day

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Looks awesome J...well done!
Really nice sunburst isn't it
Also that truss rod adjustment access is great right?!
Is it a vintage radius ?
I LOVE that headstock

Can you tell me aittle about the pickups? Output ? Would you say they are 'fender jag' sounding ?

Thanks

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Re: 'New' Offset Restored Day

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Jay wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 7:14 am
AiRdAd wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:48 am Did you just rewind the pickup? or did you have to more to it?
I had the original cover but the pickup in it was very low output and not original. So I built a new one from scratch... thought I posted it on "what's on your workbench". Will check and update.
thanks. I probably saw it, but didn't make the connection. it's great that you went to the effort of doing the pickup. :-)
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Re: 'New' Offset Restored Day

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AiRdAd wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 12:40 pm
Jay wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 7:14 am
AiRdAd wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:48 am Did you just rewind the pickup? or did you have to more to it?
I had the original cover but the pickup in it was very low output and not original. So I built a new one from scratch... thought I posted it on "what's on your workbench". Will check and update.
thanks. I probably saw it, but didn't make the connection. it's great that you went to the effort of doing the pickup. :-)
No, I didn't post it. Will put some pics in this thread tonight.
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Re: 'New' Offset Restored Day

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Jay wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 12:46 pm
AiRdAd wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 12:40 pm
Jay wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 7:14 am

I had the original cover but the pickup in it was very low output and not original. So I built a new one from scratch... thought I posted it on "what's on your workbench". Will check and update.
thanks. I probably saw it, but didn't make the connection. it's great that you went to the effort of doing the pickup. :-)
No, I didn't post it. Will put some pics in this thread tonight.
thanks, that's great :-)
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Re: 'New' Offset Restored Day

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StrummersOfThunder wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 12:07 pm Looks awesome J...well done!
Really nice sunburst isn't it
Also that truss rod adjustment access is great right?!
Is it a vintage radius ?
I LOVE that headstock

Can you tell me aittle about the pickups? Output ? Would you say they are 'fender jag' sounding ?

Thanks
Thanks Mr SoT. The truss rod access is superb. Radius a straight 7.25 inch me thinks. Headstock is cool and not sure why Yamaha discontinued it. In fact, both the SG-2 and SG-3 were only made for a year starting somewhere in 1966.

Both models are snapped up pretty quickly when they appear for sale in Japan.

Re the single coil pickups:
Neck pickup original and measuring 9.35 kiloohm. Full grunty sound without getting muddy imo.
I know the original bridge pickup is the same DC resistance as the neck. When I played a fully original one some time ago I preferred the neck over the bridge.
Anyway, the bridge pickup I made follows identical construction as the original. I used AWG43 but have no idea what Yamaha used. DC resistance 7.4kOhm. My bridge pickup sounds pretty good but I am no single coil connoisseur.

You are welcome to try it out next time you are over or wait for Slowy's verdict once he has put it through the wringer :D


Edit, absolutely no noise, whole cavity shielded
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Re: 'New' Offset Restored Day

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Jay wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 1:12 pm
StrummersOfThunder wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 12:07 pm Looks awesome J...well done!
Really nice sunburst isn't it
Also that truss rod adjustment access is great right?!
Is it a vintage radius ?
I LOVE that headstock

Can you tell me aittle about the pickups? Output ? Would you say they are 'fender jag' sounding ?

Thanks
Thanks Mr SoT. The truss rod access is superb. Radius a straight 7.25 inch me thinks. Headstock is cool and not sure why Yamaha discontinued it. In fact, both the SG-2 and SG-3 were only made for a year starting somewhere in 1966.

Both models are snapped up pretty quickly when they appear for sale in Japan.

Re the single coil pickups:
Neck pickup original and measuring 9.35 kiloohm. Full grunty sound without getting muddy imo.
I know the original bridge pickup is the same DC resistance as the neck. When I played a fully original one some time ago I preferred the neck over the bridge.
Anyway, the bridge pickup I made follows identical construction as the original. I used AWG43 but have no idea what Yamaha used. DC resistance 7.4kOhm. My bridge pickup sounds pretty good but I am no single coil connoisseur.

You are welcome to try it out next time you are over or wait for Slowy's verdict once he has put it through the wringer :D


Edit, absolutely no noise, whole cavity shielded
Quite a big difference between the neck and bridge in terms of resistance..how well do they balance ?
Id love to try it.
Always a sucker for an offset , and love two single coil set up that hasn't been poluted by a strat set up aka the middle pickup of why
Lastly, I've always rated that Yamaha trem design. The roller bridge is a nice touch too. They were really hitting their stride by 66 by the looks :thumbup:

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Re: 'New' Offset Restored Day

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StrummersOfThunder wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 2:25 pm
Jay wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 1:12 pm
StrummersOfThunder wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 12:07 pm Looks awesome J...well done!
Really nice sunburst isn't it
Also that truss rod adjustment access is great right?!
Is it a vintage radius ?
I LOVE that headstock

Can you tell me aittle about the pickups? Output ? Would you say they are 'fender jag' sounding ?

Thanks
Thanks Mr SoT. The truss rod access is superb. Radius a straight 7.25 inch me thinks. Headstock is cool and not sure why Yamaha discontinued it. In fact, both the SG-2 and SG-3 were only made for a year starting somewhere in 1966.

Both models are snapped up pretty quickly when they appear for sale in Japan.

Re the single coil pickups:
Neck pickup original and measuring 9.35 kiloohm. Full grunty sound without getting muddy imo.
I know the original bridge pickup is the same DC resistance as the neck. When I played a fully original one some time ago I preferred the neck over the bridge.
Anyway, the bridge pickup I made follows identical construction as the original. I used AWG43 but have no idea what Yamaha used. DC resistance 7.4kOhm. My bridge pickup sounds pretty good but I am no single coil connoisseur.

You are welcome to try it out next time you are over or wait for Slowy's verdict once he has put it through the wringer :D


Edit, absolutely no noise, whole cavity shielded
Quite a big difference between the neck and bridge in terms of resistance..how well do they balance ?
Id love to try it.
Always a sucker for an offset , and love two single coil set up that hasn't been poluted by a strat set up aka the middle pickup of why
Lastly, I've always rated that Yamaha trem design. The roller bridge is a nice touch too. They were really hitting their stride by 66 by the looks :thumbup:

Yeah, I don't have a counter on my drill so calculated anticipated resistance based on thickness of total wire I put on. Surprisingly, despite that is has excellent output and is well balanced with the neck.

The trem is now even better as I have improved on the Yamaha design :D
When faced with quality, I recognise it every time.

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Re: 'New' Offset Restored Day

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StrummersOfThunder wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 2:25 pm
Always a sucker for an offset , and love two single coil set up that hasn't been poluted by a strat set up aka the middle pickup of why
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Re: 'New' Offset Restored Day

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AiRdAd wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 1:03 pm
Jay wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 12:46 pm
AiRdAd wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 12:40 pm

thanks. I probably saw it, but didn't make the connection. it's great that you went to the effort of doing the pickup. :-)
No, I didn't post it. Will put some pics in this thread tonight.
thanks, that's great :-)
I didn't document the making of the bridge pickup as it was just going to be a prototype. Really pleased with the result though, so gotta make a 'professional' one now :D
Got a few photos but also lost a few due to a mobile factory reset... Here are the bits that I do have:

Sourced a strip of soft steel shown on the bottom of the photo below. Drilled 2.5mm holes as per string spacing, then tapped them with 0.5mm pitch.

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Creating the "bobbin" from polyethylene material which was taped and glued. Photos from fitting the bobbin bottom section and the timber base are gone. Winding photos also lost. Sorry :oops:
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This photo shows the magnet on top of the soft steel section
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And this is the top bit. I sanded the top of the screws to remove the black paint. Then cut two thin strips of aluminium foil and glued that on the top.
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Re: 'New' Offset Restored Day

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Jay wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 2:46 pm
StrummersOfThunder wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 2:25 pm
Jay wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 1:12 pm

Thanks Mr SoT. The truss rod access is superb. Radius a straight 7.25 inch me thinks. Headstock is cool and not sure why Yamaha discontinued it. In fact, both the SG-2 and SG-3 were only made for a year starting somewhere in 1966.

Both models are snapped up pretty quickly when they appear for sale in Japan.

Re the single coil pickups:
Neck pickup original and measuring 9.35 kiloohm. Full grunty sound without getting muddy imo.
I know the original bridge pickup is the same DC resistance as the neck. When I played a fully original one some time ago I preferred the neck over the bridge.
Anyway, the bridge pickup I made follows identical construction as the original. I used AWG43 but have no idea what Yamaha used. DC resistance 7.4kOhm. My bridge pickup sounds pretty good but I am no single coil connoisseur.

You are welcome to try it out next time you are over or wait for Slowy's verdict once he has put it through the wringer :D


Edit, absolutely no noise, whole cavity shielded
Quite a big difference between the neck and bridge in terms of resistance..how well do they balance ?
Id love to try it.
Always a sucker for an offset , and love two single coil set up that hasn't been poluted by a strat set up aka the middle pickup of why
Lastly, I've always rated that Yamaha trem design. The roller bridge is a nice touch too. They were really hitting their stride by 66 by the looks :thumbup:

Yeah, I don't have a counter on my drill so calculated anticipated resistance based on thickness of total wire I put on. Surprisingly, despite that is has excellent output and is well balanced with the neck.

The trem is now even better as I have improved on the Yamaha design :D
Jay, you keep it until Ants has seen it. His assessment will be far more knowlege based than I could manage.


And I can imagine the two of them gettin' along. :D
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Re: 'New' Offset Restored Day

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Very kind
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