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Out of Phase Wiring

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Wanting to change to middle position on the Korinacaster to out of phase. Going for herd wisdom before I start.

So what wires do I need to swap?

And my old 5SE's camera really isn't up to it anymore...
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Re: Out of Phase Wiring

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With a single coil all you would need to do is swap the leads coming from the pickup, so choose a pickup, maybe neck? unsolder its black ground wire and put it to the switch where the other neck wire is (white??) and put that white to ground instead.
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Re: Out of Phase Wiring

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jeremyb wrote: Fri Sep 04, 2020 8:18 am With a single coil all you would need to do is swap the leads coming from the pickup, so choose a pickup, maybe neck? unsolder its black ground wire and put it to the switch where the other neck wire is (white??) and put that white to ground instead.
That's what I thought; just checking though. :thumbup:
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Re: Out of Phase Wiring

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Curious to know why you would want the out of phase thing, doesn't it make them sound really thin?
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Re: Out of Phase Wiring

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How does the 50's wiring work out for you? Only ever tried it on P90 and HB guitars.

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jeremyb wrote: Fri Sep 04, 2020 8:56 am Curious to know why you would want the out of phase thing, doesn't it make them sound really thin?
Why yes, it does. But it also pops clearly out of a mix in a way rounder tones don't. I like the nasal quality and it works well with the fingerpicking which is 80% of my playing. Amps and pedals can maintain the 'honk' and still make it as big as you like.

Absolutely the best tone for swampy blues too.

Of the 6 pickup tones on the Baja, the standard both pups on is the only one I really don't use. Just doesn't have the character of the out of phase option.
And if I wanted huge fat tones, I'd probably be better friends with Les Pauls. :rofl:
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Re: Out of Phase Wiring

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Add a push pull pot for both options

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IMOCD wrote: Fri Sep 04, 2020 8:59 am How does the 50's wiring work out for you? Only ever tried it on P90 and HB guitars.
That's the one with the treble rolloff? If so, not for me.
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Re: Out of Phase Wiring

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Mattallica wrote: Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:12 am Add a push pull pot for both options
Baja Tele. Job done. :thumbup:
Never use both pups on the Korinacaster. Each of the Lollars has a distinct and wonderful voice. Combined though, they seem less.
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Re: Out of Phase Wiring

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Slowy wrote: Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:14 am
IMOCD wrote: Fri Sep 04, 2020 8:59 am How does the 50's wiring work out for you? Only ever tried it on P90 and HB guitars.
That's the one with the treble rolloff? If so, not for me.
50's retains treble as you roll off volume. To my untrained eye, having the tone cap between V and T like you have, makes it 50's style(??).

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Re: Out of Phase Wiring

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IMOCD wrote: Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:44 am
Slowy wrote: Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:14 am
IMOCD wrote: Fri Sep 04, 2020 8:59 am How does the 50's wiring work out for you? Only ever tried it on P90 and HB guitars.
That's the one with the treble rolloff? If so, not for me.
50's retains treble as you roll off volume. To my untrained eye, having the tone cap between V and T like you have, makes it 50's style(??).
Right. In that case yes, I like.
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Re: Out of Phase Wiring

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Like JB said BUT.....

The neck pickup cover will then be attached directly to hot. If you touch it, it will buzz like a MF.

You should detach the pickup cover from the ground wire and solder on its own independent one, which should then be sent to ground.

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Re: Out of Phase Wiring

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ToneLoungeMatt wrote: Fri Sep 04, 2020 12:55 pm Like JB said BUT.....

The neck pickup cover will then be attached directly to hot. If you touch it, it will buzz like a MF.

You should detach the pickup cover from the ground wire and solder on its own independent one, which should then be sent to ground.
Didn't think of that, doh!! Maybe just reverse the bridge pickup?
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Re: Out of Phase Wiring

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jeremyb wrote: Fri Sep 04, 2020 1:01 pm
ToneLoungeMatt wrote: Fri Sep 04, 2020 12:55 pm Like JB said BUT.....

The neck pickup cover will then be attached directly to hot. If you touch it, it will buzz like a MF.

You should detach the pickup cover from the ground wire and solder on its own independent one, which should then be sent to ground.
Didn't think of that, doh!! Maybe just reverse the bridge pickup?
Wot Jb said?
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Re: Out of Phase Wiring

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Nope. The bridge pickup is worse.

The ground wire is attached to the copper base plate, which is attached to the mounting screws, which are attached to bridge, which is attached to your strings.

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