Clone pedals taken to another level?

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Check these out: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/High-Qu ... 82352.html

Also theres some DIY Klon and other kits available: https://www.aliexpress.com/store/group/ ... 12621.html

Tempted to try one of the Klon kits out, who knows what the replica ones are like.. Joyo in a correctly painted box perhaps?
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You really shouldn’t encourage this bullshit Jb.
I just want the Chinese to start making stuff that’s worth ripping off wholesale. See how the feckers like that.
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by the time that happens they will be in control anyway. they just close shit down they don't like and shoot people, There's no discussion

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Slowy wrote:You really shouldn’t encourage this bullshit Jb.
I just want the Chinese to start making stuff that’s worth ripping off wholesale. See how the feckers like that.
I don't think I'm encouraging it, I think most people on here know they will be lower quality facsimiles of the real thing :)

There is a movement for chinese companies now to do their own R&D and make their own unique stuff like Mooer and Joyo are doing :)
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By encourage, I meant ‘buy’. :)
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I have a lot of respect for Mooer. They do some good stuff.
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Slowy wrote:I have a lot of respect for Mooer. They do some good stuff.
ElectroHarmonix agrees.
Tin arse!!

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Slowy wrote:You really shouldn’t encourage this bullshit Jb.
I just want the Chinese to start making stuff that’s worth ripping off wholesale. See how the feckers like that.
More so, stop online shopping JB!!!!
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GrantB wrote:
Slowy wrote:You really shouldn’t encourage this bullshit Jb.
I just want the Chinese to start making stuff that’s worth ripping off wholesale. See how the feckers like that.
More so, stop online shopping JB!!!!
Meh, spent way more at the rockshop 2 days ago than I've spent online in guitar gear in a couple of years :thumbup:
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Yeah ... no dis to JB but I am not a fan of cheap chinese copy / clone stuff including kits ... even just buying to see how it is. Every sale legitimizes their business model.

But I can see how it's intriguing to people and the low cost is more of a 'ah well ... if it's shit ... it didn't cost much'
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Several years ago (while still in the USA) I bought a fake Chibson based exactly on that logic (how bad can it be?)

Well it was indeed that bad—worse in fact.

The story has a happy ending though, I took it to the local music store (where strangely I was well known) and the owner bought it off me for more than I paid for it. He reckoned it would help him sell more real Gibsons if he could show the customers just how bad the fakes are.

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It's not the copying of the circuits that bothers me, (though a Timmy with no switch is no Timmy) it's the wholesale rip off of the visual design including Brand and Logo.

There's a simple 5 letter word for this activity; Fraud.

It is designed to represent something it isn't. It is a virus that infects our second hand markets and destroys our ability to trust them.
It sucks, it's wrong and it makes me extremely hostile.

Every single one should be landfilled at the border.

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compared to things like cloned pharmaceuticals, guitar pedals are not high on the list,
and they do have R& D , they have just landed on the moon FFS
doubt they cloned Apollo but maybe all those tourists with their nikons visiting cape canaveral were actually spies

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Slowy said - "destroys our ability to trust them"

That's good for me as a retailer though in both the new and second hand markets
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NZRS-Dave wrote:Slowy said - "destroys our ability to trust them"

That's good for me as a retailer though in both the new and second hand markets
Slight tangent - does RS have a "second hand market"? Last time I spoke to RS about a trade in or similar the response was a well rehearsed "we don't do second hand goods". Was a long time ago though....
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