Kwila neck build
Moderators: Slowy, Capt. Black
- Bg
- Site Admin
- Posts: 43189
- meble-kuchenne.warszawa.pl
- Joined: Fri Sep 05, 2003 12:13 am
- Location: Auckland
- Has liked: 2255 times
- Been liked: 3873 times
Kwila neck build
Finally got around to starting this, only roughed out at the moment, had a refret to do for Single Coil which took yesterday arvo and a bit of today to finish, and the missus demanded my attention for bathroom refinishing
So I now have a roughed out kwila neck, though its as thick as fuck, hoping the jigsaws up to thicknessing else I'm going to be making a thicknessing jig for the router.
Torn between making a template, but as per usual I'm thinking freehand - I know I'll end up making one if I ever do another tele neck but at the moment I really can't be arsed!
So I now have a roughed out kwila neck, though its as thick as fuck, hoping the jigsaws up to thicknessing else I'm going to be making a thicknessing jig for the router.
Torn between making a template, but as per usual I'm thinking freehand - I know I'll end up making one if I ever do another tele neck but at the moment I really can't be arsed!
So, is that low alcohol or no alcohol at all? mmmm, no alcohol, do you want to try it? Noooooooooo.
- Single coil
- BANNED
- Posts: 10050
- Joined: Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:35 pm
- Location: Public toilet
- Has liked: 1110 times
- Been liked: 485 times
Re: Kwila neck build
Thank you kindly for seeing to my guitar.
Pictures of nice wood Oh, my!?
Pictures of nice wood Oh, my!?
werdna wrote:Well at least I can still make toast in the bath without anyone telling me it's unsafe.
- willow13
- Vintage Post Junkie
- Posts: 14558
- Joined: Sun Dec 19, 2004 2:36 pm
- Location: If less is more then just think how much more more is
- Has liked: 372 times
- Been liked: 634 times
Re: Kwila neck build
are you braving the no truss rod with the kwila? I have a half finished kwila neck here that I chickened out and put a rod in there...I sort of got the neck joining headstock area "wrong" so I think its a little thin and might be prone to snapping. Might need to glue some extra wood on there to strengthen..just can't be arse at the mo
If Less is More Then Just Think How Much More More would be
- jeremyb
- Chorus of Organs
- Posts: 40893
- Joined: Sat Dec 06, 2008 9:03 am
- Has liked: 7692 times
- Been liked: 4159 times
Re: Kwila neck build
Always wondered about getting some kwila decking and seeing if you could make a neck from it.
Slowy wrote: That's the problem; everything rewarding is just such hard work. Regret takes much less effort.
- willow13
- Vintage Post Junkie
- Posts: 14558
- Joined: Sun Dec 19, 2004 2:36 pm
- Location: If less is more then just think how much more more is
- Has liked: 372 times
- Been liked: 634 times
Re: Kwila neck build
well thats all i'm usingjeremyb wrote:Always wondered about getting some kwila decking and seeing if you could make a neck from it.
I do have some planks as well, but I have started with the decking
If Less is More Then Just Think How Much More More would be
- Bg
- Site Admin
- Posts: 43189
- Joined: Fri Sep 05, 2003 12:13 am
- Location: Auckland
- Has liked: 2255 times
- Been liked: 3873 times
Re: Kwila neck build
Yep, no truss rod involved. At the end of the cliche, if it becomes an issue I can route one in from behind eh. I'm happy enough putting one in - thats probably the easiest part of the build for me! - but Adrian reckoned it wouldn't need it so I'll go with that
So, is that low alcohol or no alcohol at all? mmmm, no alcohol, do you want to try it? Noooooooooo.
- Bg
- Site Admin
- Posts: 43189
- Joined: Fri Sep 05, 2003 12:13 am
- Location: Auckland
- Has liked: 2255 times
- Been liked: 3873 times
Re: Kwila neck build
Wheres JB when you need himBg wrote:Yep, no truss rod involved. At the end of the cliche, if it becomes an issue I can route one in from behind eh. I'm happy enough putting one in - thats probably the easiest part of the build for me! - but Adrian reckoned it wouldn't need it so I'll go with that
So, is that low alcohol or no alcohol at all? mmmm, no alcohol, do you want to try it? Noooooooooo.
-
- Gibson
- Posts: 806
- Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2015 11:11 am
- Has liked: 499 times
- Been liked: 136 times
Re: Kwila neck build
Is decking thick enough? I've use decking and cut it in half to use as fret boards, but didn't check to think if it would do as a one-piece.willow13 wrote:well thats all i'm usingjeremyb wrote:Always wondered about getting some kwila decking and seeing if you could make a neck from it.
I do have some planks as well, but I have started with the decking
- Danger Mouse
- Vintage Post Junkie
- Posts: 11459
- Joined: Mon Oct 16, 2006 3:32 pm
- Location: Jafa Land
- Has liked: 351 times
- Been liked: 661 times
Re: Kwila neck build
If you're building an Ibanez RG style neck, it would be plenty.Lostininverness wrote:Is decking thick enough? I've use decking and cut it in half to use as fret boards, but didn't check to think if it would do as a one-piece.willow13 wrote:well thats all i'm usingjeremyb wrote:Always wondered about getting some kwila decking and seeing if you could make a neck from it.
I do have some planks as well, but I have started with the decking
The older I get, the more disappointed in myself I become.
- Bg
- Site Admin
- Posts: 43189
- Joined: Fri Sep 05, 2003 12:13 am
- Location: Auckland
- Has liked: 2255 times
- Been liked: 3873 times
Re: Kwila neck build
well this is a big chunk of quarter sawn I got from Adrian, I wouldn't recommend it for decking use....
So, is that low alcohol or no alcohol at all? mmmm, no alcohol, do you want to try it? Noooooooooo.
- willow13
- Vintage Post Junkie
- Posts: 14558
- Joined: Sun Dec 19, 2004 2:36 pm
- Location: If less is more then just think how much more more is
- Has liked: 372 times
- Been liked: 634 times
Re: Kwila neck build
25mm decking is plenty if you put a fretboard on it..not thick enough for a one pieceLostininverness wrote:Is decking thick enough? I've use decking and cut it in half to use as fret boards, but didn't check to think if it would do as a one-piece.willow13 wrote:well thats all i'm usingjeremyb wrote:Always wondered about getting some kwila decking and seeing if you could make a neck from it.
I do have some planks as well, but I have started with the decking
If Less is More Then Just Think How Much More More would be
- Bg
- Site Admin
- Posts: 43189
- Joined: Fri Sep 05, 2003 12:13 am
- Location: Auckland
- Has liked: 2255 times
- Been liked: 3873 times
Re: Kwila neck build
yeah 25mm would be, unless you want skinny neck!
Ok, more movement here, I'm taking photos so will upload at some stage.
The neck is now approaching the right size for the guitar. I had to thickness about 10mm off it. I could have made a thicknessing jig/box thingy for the router but I decided that would be a fanny about.
I have 3 routers, one is in a table, so I basically removed the 10 mm in two passes leaving little islands at 200mm ish intervals (about 8 mm wide) so that once we got down to the final thickness I just turned the neck over and chiselled the islands off. This really worked well. 20 mins later, the neck is the right thickness (chunky!)
Did the same sort of thing with the headstock, that needed about 12mm off the top, no worries. Then put the big radius in twixt nut and headstock with the belt sander (clamped to my bench)
Only slight fubar moment was a small amount of wood chipped off the front of the headstock when routing. 10 mins, superglue and some of the copious amounts of sawdust sorted that.
Tested my dot markers, will take a pic tomorrow, but basically, alluminium tube (9.53mm... its in imperial) drill the hole, put in the tube, fill with epoxy and sawdust, or I might go with black woodfiller. Side markers are 3mm brass rod.
More achieved today than expected though!
Ok, more movement here, I'm taking photos so will upload at some stage.
The neck is now approaching the right size for the guitar. I had to thickness about 10mm off it. I could have made a thicknessing jig/box thingy for the router but I decided that would be a fanny about.
I have 3 routers, one is in a table, so I basically removed the 10 mm in two passes leaving little islands at 200mm ish intervals (about 8 mm wide) so that once we got down to the final thickness I just turned the neck over and chiselled the islands off. This really worked well. 20 mins later, the neck is the right thickness (chunky!)
Did the same sort of thing with the headstock, that needed about 12mm off the top, no worries. Then put the big radius in twixt nut and headstock with the belt sander (clamped to my bench)
Only slight fubar moment was a small amount of wood chipped off the front of the headstock when routing. 10 mins, superglue and some of the copious amounts of sawdust sorted that.
Tested my dot markers, will take a pic tomorrow, but basically, alluminium tube (9.53mm... its in imperial) drill the hole, put in the tube, fill with epoxy and sawdust, or I might go with black woodfiller. Side markers are 3mm brass rod.
More achieved today than expected though!
So, is that low alcohol or no alcohol at all? mmmm, no alcohol, do you want to try it? Noooooooooo.
- Jay
- Vintage Post Junkie
- Posts: 7761
- Joined: Sat Sep 25, 2010 9:35 pm
- Has liked: 1630 times
- Been liked: 1297 times
Re: Kwila neck build
Cool, I like that idea of aluminium dot markers with a black filling. Although white would be my preference.
When faced with quality, I recognise it every time.
- Bg
- Site Admin
- Posts: 43189
- Joined: Fri Sep 05, 2003 12:13 am
- Location: Auckland
- Has liked: 2255 times
- Been liked: 3873 times
Re: Kwila neck build
Yeah, I've gone natural in the end, had to drop the size of tube to 1/4" too (6.6mm ish??? they sell it in imperial) The big stuff just wasn't going to fit between frets on the dusty end. Shame because the wall was thicker too.jvpp wrote:Cool, I like that idea of aluminium dot markers with a black filling. Although white would be my preference.
Anyway just a daft quad of pics, to show where I'm at. Sadly I'm renovating the bathroom at the same time, so my build time is halved dagnabbit!
ok top... my sight is shot to shit, so I should have used the big magnifying thing I have. But didn't. 4 frets slightly out of whack and one dot marker a mm or so out
arbitrary boring profile shot, got a couple of mm to remove from the face of the headstock yet.
Fixed breakout on the end of the headstock, epoxy and kwila dust...
And a quick mockup of the aluminium dot markers.
very quick, I'll be reshaping with a scalpel on the real deal, if I can be arsed!
So, is that low alcohol or no alcohol at all? mmmm, no alcohol, do you want to try it? Noooooooooo.