Rat Alternatives
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Rat Alternatives
Are the Rat 2's decent pedals?
And what are the Rat clones out there? Particularly ones available in NZ. I don't mind if they're a bit corksniffy.
And what are the Rat clones out there? Particularly ones available in NZ. I don't mind if they're a bit corksniffy.
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Re: Rat Alternatives
I've thought about one of these aswell. Peper's Pedals did a "RAD" rat clone not too long ago. Maybe you could find out if they're still available
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Re: Rat Alternatives
Mooer Black Secret / ENO TC-13
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Re: Rat Alternatives
i have one,easily available.Mine has the ruetz mod plus switchable clipping.Mattallica wrote:I've thought about one of these aswell. Peper's Pedals did a "RAD" rat clone not too long ago. Maybe you could find out if they're still available
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Re: Rat Alternatives
For the style of music RATT are pretty much as good as it get. Yes there are alternatives but meh
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Re: Rat Alternatives
Kris wrote:tony needs to chime in here,being something of a rat man....
I'd be keen to hear his thoughts.
A swift googling tells me the JHS All American is one option.
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Re: Rat Alternatives
What's a ruetz mod?i have one,easily available.Mine has the ruetz mod plus switchable clipping.
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Re: Rat Alternatives
Not strictly a Rat because it is a hybrid design that is part Tone Bender and part Rat, but sounds good:
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Re: Rat Alternatives
I didn't like the eno with my ac15c1, sounded way better with a muff style fuzz
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Re: Rat Alternatives
I have been ratted out HOHO!
So with Voxen, run it with gain below 12 and as much vol as you dare - best is to try and set the gain low enough that the bass response is juuuust kicking in and loads of vol to pummel the preamp - don't bother using it for brootz.
Avoid a new bog standard Rat 2, You Dirty Rat or Turbo are better quality and mods are easy.
The ENO Rat was placed side by side with an '80s Rat 2 and there is no difference (good for budget)
Big Box RI Rat is worth a punt if you see one - if it has an LM308 on the left side of the board, you're a winner!
Mudhoney's are lightly tweaked rats with a low gain option (they labelled it boost but it's actually the opposite) and I really like what they did.
Out of my Silverpistol range, the Bronson with the diodes in hard clipping is in the ballpark but much more refined - I'm looking to add my Rat version to the line up soon.
TL;DR
Cheap = ENO Rat
Legit = tweaked You Dirty Rat (swap out diodes, chip, and a cap)
Boutique = Mudhoney
Plug for Silverpistol = Bronson
So with Voxen, run it with gain below 12 and as much vol as you dare - best is to try and set the gain low enough that the bass response is juuuust kicking in and loads of vol to pummel the preamp - don't bother using it for brootz.
Avoid a new bog standard Rat 2, You Dirty Rat or Turbo are better quality and mods are easy.
The ENO Rat was placed side by side with an '80s Rat 2 and there is no difference (good for budget)
Big Box RI Rat is worth a punt if you see one - if it has an LM308 on the left side of the board, you're a winner!
Mudhoney's are lightly tweaked rats with a low gain option (they labelled it boost but it's actually the opposite) and I really like what they did.
Out of my Silverpistol range, the Bronson with the diodes in hard clipping is in the ballpark but much more refined - I'm looking to add my Rat version to the line up soon.
TL;DR
Cheap = ENO Rat
Legit = tweaked You Dirty Rat (swap out diodes, chip, and a cap)
Boutique = Mudhoney
Plug for Silverpistol = Bronson
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Re: Rat Alternatives
It's where you clip off a leg of the 47Ω resistor - gives you more bass and lower gain - definitely worthwhileMattallica wrote:What's a ruetz mod?i have one,easily available.Mine has the ruetz mod plus switchable clipping.
Family Music Store - http://familymusic.co.nzGrantB wrote:Tony, your taste is, as always, very refined. Or as HG would say, "bloody awful".
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Re: Rat Alternatives
There is a KLD one with a switch on it for $50 and free post from the mpc website.
I had the ts808 copy when they sold them years ago - same enclosure, different colour, sturdiest pedal I've ever come across.
I had the ts808 copy when they sold them years ago - same enclosure, different colour, sturdiest pedal I've ever come across.
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Re: Rat Alternatives
Then wouldn't the Eno be goon? Haha.Eruera wrote:The Mooer is great, it's very much a screw-top though.
Amps:
Soldano SLO100 x2 | Wizard MC1 & MC2 | Diezel Herbert
Fryette Pittbull CL | Marshall 2203KK | Krank Rev 50 | Mesa Mark 2A
Rack stuff:
VHT/Fryette GP3, GP/DI & 2/90/2 | Peters FSM/Chimera
Verellen Meatsmoke | Synergy SYN1 | Mesa Studio
Soldano SLO100 x2 | Wizard MC1 & MC2 | Diezel Herbert
Fryette Pittbull CL | Marshall 2203KK | Krank Rev 50 | Mesa Mark 2A
Rack stuff:
VHT/Fryette GP3, GP/DI & 2/90/2 | Peters FSM/Chimera
Verellen Meatsmoke | Synergy SYN1 | Mesa Studio