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Re: New BOSS Products coming....

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 10:43 pm
by StratMatt
Not cheap though is it, the triple play.

Re: New BOSS Products coming....

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 10:57 pm
by Bg
StratMatt wrote:Not cheap though is it, the triple play.
compared to? chewing gum? a bag of chips? a strymon pedal? helix? strandberg guitar? comparable tech?

Roland GR55 list price rockshop with GK3 pickup $1499
Fishman TriplePlay $750

half the price. haven't seen any second hand, small market I know - but saying that, I've seen a few GR55's take a dive, including mine.

Re: New BOSS Products coming....

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 11:10 pm
by StratMatt
Yeah, if I could pick one up for a bag of chips I'd be pretty happy!

Had a passing interest in one the other day and thought I'd check the price out. Was more expecting $4-500 I suppose. I could definitely integrate it into a few of the songs we play though.

Re: New BOSS Products coming....

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 11:17 pm
by Bg
talk to dave as I'm sure I never paid 750 for mine ;)

but I have had a metric fucktonne of fun playing with it :D

Re: New BOSS Products coming....

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 11:50 pm
by handsoffmatt
jeremyb wrote: Plus apparently he donates money to some world church of hate against LGBTQ peoples :(


https://www.jhspedals.com/jhs-supports-human-rights/

Re: New BOSS Products coming....

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 11:53 pm
by handsoffmatt
Bg wrote:
Terexgeek wrote:Boss has been busy:
http://www.guitarplayer.com/gear/1012/b ... itar/63809
yeah, its still old tech though. they've basically not improved their midi/digital algorithms for years. Much of this will just rely on using the gk pickup as a 'piezo a string' input, the usual GK synth stuff is still glitchy and a bit shit compared to fishman.
The Synth sounds on the Strandberg are just a part of it. The really big deal is the (upgraded) V-Guitar technology. Latency free dropped tunings at the flick of a switch and guitar modelling that sounds killer.

It's a phenomenal guitar. So phenomenal I'm getting one for myself.....even though they are VERY not cheap.

Re: New BOSS Products coming....

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 11:54 pm
by handsoffmatt
Bg wrote:be nice to see. The v-guitar stuff just uses the same old one piezo a string though
V-Guitar products use GK technology. They are magnetic pickups - not piezos.

Re: New BOSS Products coming....

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:03 am
by Bg
handsoffmatt wrote:
Bg wrote:be nice to see. The v-guitar stuff just uses the same old one piezo a string though
V-Guitar products use GK technology. They are magnetic pickups - not piezos.
yeah got my piezo/mag twisted, godin use the piezo. Triple play use mag as well but it works way less glitchy - processing is better and not as prone to setup error.

When I got my GR-55 I compared the midi output with what I was getting with my old GR-30 (first made in 1997), and it was actually worse. The GR-55 does improve the quality internally but not what it shoves out to midi - and frankly the GR55 synth tones were cheesy, so you really want to be using external synths/soft synths anyway.

The Virtual section was a lot of fun though, enough to make me want to move to a VG-99 but not at that price they were selling for!!

Re: New BOSS Products coming....

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:09 am
by Bg
handsoffmatt wrote:even though they are VERY not cheap.
yeah.... staff discount and that ;)

Re: New BOSS Products coming....

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 3:42 am
by handsoffmatt
Bg wrote:
handsoffmatt wrote:
Bg wrote:be nice to see. The v-guitar stuff just uses the same old one piezo a string though
V-Guitar products use GK technology. They are magnetic pickups - not piezos.
yeah got my piezo/mag twisted, godin use the piezo. Triple play use mag as well but it works way less glitchy - processing is better and not as prone to setup error.

When I got my GR-55 I compared the midi output with what I was getting with my old GR-30 (first made in 1997), and it was actually worse. The GR-55 does improve the quality internally but not what it shoves out to midi - and frankly the GR55 synth tones were cheesy, so you really want to be using external synths/soft synths anyway.

The Virtual section was a lot of fun though, enough to make me want to move to a VG-99 but not at that price they were selling for!!
Totally get what you are saying.

Just to clear up a misconception though.... any tracking glitches you experience are to do with the synth end, not the GK pickup. The GK pickup (if installed correctly) tracks absolutely perfectly. As is evidenced by the previous Fender/Roland G5 and the new V-BDN (Strandberg). Those guitars have ZERO tracking errors or glitches and no perceivable latency.

Re: New BOSS Products coming....

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 5:58 am
by Bg
Yeah totally, I loved the V guitar aspect of the gr55. I take it there is a new version of the vg-99 on the way too?

Re: New BOSS Products coming....

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 12:27 pm
by Conway
handsoffmatt wrote:NPD!!!! My new acoustic board

ImageUntitled by Matt Walsham, on Flickr
So this is how to get the "brown" sound!

Re: New BOSS Products coming....

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 12:30 pm
by Conway
handsoffmatt wrote:
Bg wrote:
Terexgeek wrote:Boss has been busy:
http://www.guitarplayer.com/gear/1012/b ... itar/63809
yeah, its still old tech though. they've basically not improved their midi/digital algorithms for years. Much of this will just rely on using the gk pickup as a 'piezo a string' input, the usual GK synth stuff is still glitchy and a bit shit compared to fishman.
The Synth sounds on the Strandberg are just a part of it. The really big deal is the (upgraded) V-Guitar technology. Latency free dropped tunings at the flick of a switch and guitar modelling that sounds killer.

It's a phenomenal guitar. So phenomenal I'm getting one for myself.....even though they are VERY not cheap.
I'm perplexed by those fan fret things. Can you just strum normal chords on them or are they only for the widdley twiddley players?

Re: New BOSS Products coming....

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 10:08 pm
by handsoffmatt
Conway wrote: I'm perplexed by those fan fret things. Can you just strum normal chords on them or are they only for the widdley twiddley players?
Yeah, you can play normal chords, no problem.

Re: New BOSS Products coming....

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 7:28 pm
by KentNZ
handsoffmatt wrote:
jeremyb wrote: Plus apparently he donates money to some world church of hate against LGBTQ peoples :(
https://www.jhspedals.com/jhs-supports-human-rights/
Thanks Matt. There's a lot of rumours out there about JHS, pretty nasty most of it, and I imagine 99% of it is false.