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Re: New BOSS Products coming....

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:42 pm
by Bg
jeremyb wrote:Yeah agree about the expression pedal, should be assignable to any parameter like most modern effects units :)
Yeah its clearly planned, hence the 'like a wah' thing, its just that it is ONLY a wah at present :( So I'll carry on without the extra 170 buck pedal that provides inputs for 2 extra expression pedals - for wah and for volume. My thoughts are they are crippling the midi input too, else everything would be controllable. Sad. Bad hombres. #Witchhunt

Re: New BOSS Products coming....

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:44 pm
by handsoffmatt
Bg wrote: No offense bro, but do you have that much sway with them? Seeming as its a common concern that has not been addressed yet? The midi functions are less than pathetic, I accept it as a great amp, but not as anything controllable :( Stupidly I went for midi on the head as I thought it would have much more control. Sad face :(
Don't know how much sway I have, but I definitely have a direct line of contact with the engineers and I speak with the Product team in Japan on a weekly basis. Your feedback will definitely get back to them.

Sorry to hear you think the MIDI functions are so poor. To be clear,we've taken care to not try and pitch the Katana as an all-in-one box. We were wanting to make a kick-ass sounding amp, that had the convenience of some commonly used FX on board. We figured that serious players are gonna have their own FX rig - particularly those who want to get into MIDI control.

The MIDI functionality on Katana is not intended for a high degree of FX control - it is intended to allow Katana to integrate seamlessly into an existing FX setup.

Re: New BOSS Products coming....

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:45 pm
by willow13
Bg wrote:I think the tele/floyd thing is more a novely, hence me shifting it ;) Classic floyd rose strat was the best strat I owned. Ever.
was going to say I have a pretty floyded type strat I could part with but then I realised it was blue so yeah not going there :rofl:

Re: New BOSS Products coming....

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:46 pm
by willow13
handsoffmatt wrote: The MIDI functionality on Katana is not intended for a high degree of FX control - it is intended to allow Katana to integrate seamlessly into an existing FX setup.
thats good because I know fuck all about midi :rofl: :rofl:

Re: New BOSS Products coming....

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:47 pm
by jeremyb
Funnily enough I'm using mine as a normal amp, but the pedalboard is growing by the day.... Oops...

Re: New BOSS Products coming....

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:57 pm
by Bg
handsoffmatt wrote:
Bg wrote: The MIDI functionality on Katana is not intended for a high degree of FX control - it is intended to allow Katana to integrate seamlessly into an existing FX setup.
Adding it in to the head doesn't really make the head a better deal over a combo. As all you can control via midi is exactly what you can do with the seperate usb switcher thingy.

So its not a selling point.
Currently.
If it gets updated I will eat my words. But I'm not holding my breath as boss aren't exactly big firmware releasers ;)

Re: New BOSS Products coming....

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 7:14 pm
by handsoffmatt
Bg wrote:
handsoffmatt wrote:
Bg wrote: The MIDI functionality on Katana is not intended for a high degree of FX control - it is intended to allow Katana to integrate seamlessly into an existing FX setup.
Adding it in to the head doesn't really make the head a better deal over a combo. As all you can control via midi is exactly what you can do with the seperate usb switcher thingy.

So its not a selling point.
I'll beg to disagree. It was a selling point for me. I use the MIDI control on Katana to integrate into my FX rig (was GT-100, now MS-3) so that I don't need to use ANOTHER footswitch for the amp. Exactly as intended.
Bg wrote: If it gets updated I will eat my words. But I'm not holding my breath as boss aren't exactly big firmware releasers ;)
A very fair point in the past, but you may have noticed things have been changing as of late. (new firmware for ES-8, ES-5, DD-500 and RC-505 in the last few months). It's a changing world out there.... :wink:

Re: New BOSS Products coming....

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 9:44 pm
by Bg
handsoffmatt wrote:
Bg wrote:
handsoffmatt wrote:
Adding it in to the head doesn't really make the head a better deal over a combo. As all you can control via midi is exactly what you can do with the seperate usb switcher thingy.

So its not a selling point.
I'll beg to disagree. It was a selling point for me. I use the MIDI control on Katana to integrate into my FX rig (was GT-100, now MS-3) so that I don't need to use ANOTHER footswitch for the amp. Exactly as intended.
Bg wrote: If it gets updated I will eat my words. But I'm not holding my breath as boss aren't exactly big firmware releasers ;)
A very fair point in the past, but you may have noticed things have been changing as of late. (new firmware for ES-8, ES-5, DD-500 and RC-505 in the last few months). It's a changing world out there.... :wink:

Come on Matt, the midi is next to useless, its the 3 channels and 3 effects. It was a selling point for me until I realised it doesn't exactly fill any midi spec.

Re: New BOSS Products coming....

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 9:58 pm
by Mattallica
I'm confused. I thought the purpose of having midi control on the amp is so you can switch between saved presets on the amp with a separate midi control device.

Are you saying it doesn't do that Bg? or are you trying to do something different like parameter controls on the fly?

Re: New BOSS Products coming....

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 10:29 pm
by Bg
You can do everything you can with the GA footswitch. So , switch between 3 channels, and switch on 3 effects. But thats pretty much the published limit

Re: New BOSS Products coming....

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 12:01 am
by rickenbackerkid
is that a MIDI limitation though, or a software/hardware limitation with the Katana amp?

Re: New BOSS Products coming....

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 10:59 am
by sirvill
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Re: New BOSS Products coming....

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:21 am
by xCaptainx
Just called Hamilton. They have one in stock and are holdiing it for me. Will have it in about an hour.


LOL bloody Dave and your 'August' :lol:

Re: New BOSS Products coming....

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:24 am
by Bg
bbrunskill wrote:is that a MIDI limitation though, or a software/hardware limitation with the Katana amp?
Well MIDI should really have no limits, control wise ;) So its a limitation in the software of the Katana amp.

Hey Ben your opinion is sought in the vocal mic thread :D

Re: New BOSS Products coming....

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 12:52 pm
by xCaptainx
On my way home now. Woo!