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Not quite capable of buying yet (save up some pennies), but im looking at getting a princeton or deluxe reverb. Iv played on both and definitely dug the vibe. Want to match up in stereo to compliment with my JTM and use it for different flavours for recording.

Anyone got any alternatives? Whats the difference between the 2 models of deluxe? I think it was the 68 i played...

Whats the going second hand rate on both?

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Tony Watson just bought a 68 I think, im sure he will chime in soon.

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68 vs DRRI

Apart from cosmetics:

Both use the same PCB - the 68 Custom has reverb on both channels, channels are in phase with each other, slightly more midrangey custom channel, different speaker, more bass on the custom channel, less negative feedback (more gain/more mids/more touch sensitivity), lower reverb level, no bright cap on vintage/vibrato channel.

So in reality, the 68 is a modded DRRI, or rather a DRRI with all the most common mods performed on it out of the box. If you cared you could take the 68 to DRRI specs with little effort.

TL;DR

68 - rockier, more user-friendly, more gig friendly, noisier
DRRI - classic Fender, more clean focused, quiter

Around 1400-1600 for used DRRI is about right
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Deluxe and Twin look similar but are quite different. 65 twin reverb is much louder and stays much cleaner than the 65 deluxe reverb which is only 22 watts.

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TmcB wrote:68 vs DRRI

Apart from cosmetics:

Both use the same PCB - the 68 Custom has reverb on both channels, channels are in phase with each other, slightly more midrangey custom channel, different speaker, more bass on the custom channel, less negative feedback (more gain/more mids/more touch sensitivity), lower reverb level, no bright cap on vintage/vibrato channel.

So in reality, the 68 is a modded DRRI, or rather a DRRI with all the most common mods performed on it out of the box. If you cared you could take the 68 to DRRI specs with little effort.

TL;DR

68 - rockier, more user-friendly, more gig friendly, noisier
DRRI - classic Fender, more clean focused, quiter

Around 1400-1600 for used DRRI is about right
Sounds like the 68 is what i want. Thanks!

Princeton vs 68. Which do you prefer? Iv played both but not had a chance to A/B.

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Princeton is the DRRI '65s younger brother. The 68 Princeton I haven't played so couldn't comment

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null_pointer wrote:Princeton is the DRRI '65s younger brother. The 68 Princeton I haven't played so couldn't comment
I know they are the younger brother. Just curious which is more preferable. It'l be a home use/recording amp so volume isnt needed. More about the tone. 18w vs 22w and 12" vs 10" speakers

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Check out youtube, there are several videos comparing both.
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LucyTheSpud wrote:
null_pointer wrote:Princeton is the DRRI '65s younger brother. The 68 Princeton I haven't played so couldn't comment
I know they are the younger brother. Just curious which is more preferable. It'l be a home use/recording amp so volume isnt needed. More about the tone. 18w vs 22w and 12" vs 10" speakers
For home/recording Princeton in a heartbeat. Check out anything Ryan Adams has recorded on electric in the past 10 years and you're listening to a Princeton.

I'm getting my Princeton back for precisely the above reasons

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null_pointer wrote:
LucyTheSpud wrote:
null_pointer wrote: I'm getting my Princeton back for precisely the above reasons
You've gone to the next level man! Now buying things off yourself I see....Haha. I jest.
Agree re Princeton. Dey are zee toans.

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null_pointer wrote:
LucyTheSpud wrote:
null_pointer wrote:Princeton is the DRRI '65s younger brother. The 68 Princeton I haven't played so couldn't comment
I know they are the younger brother. Just curious which is more preferable. It'l be a home use/recording amp so volume isnt needed. More about the tone. 18w vs 22w and 12" vs 10" speakers
For home/recording Princeton in a heartbeat. Check out anything Ryan Adams has recorded on electric in the past 10 years and you're listening to a Princeton.

I'm getting my Princeton back for precisely the above reasons

Ok...this is getting complex... now, standard princeton reissue vs 68. Same deal as DRRI and 68?

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Same deal (largely) for 68 Princeton vs prri.

In terms of Princeton vs Deluxe Reverb?
Couldn't tell you. There are options on Deluxe Reverb and honestly isn't crazy loud at the sweet spot, although the Princeton gets there sooner at lower vols.

I didn't have the option of Princeton but I originally was going that way. Reports of farty baffles scared me so stayed away a bit. Wouldn't mind both tbh
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So to your ear it pretty much is just volume and breakup point? Its still early days of looking, so i havent done much reading about either yet. Im mostly just curious about forum opinions on all 4 different ones. Not the twin reverb tho, way overkill for my tastes!

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Nah, Princeton has it's own sexy vibe - more rounded and lush to my ear. That's as well as the lower vol and breakup point. Depends completely on what you're asking it to do though.
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