NWTFOMGLOLJBPD HD500X Thread

[hamo]

Still not happy with my dirt tone, not cutting through as well as I'd like, might need to work on some EQ'ing.... I'm also keen to try a FRFR setup...

I remember downloading some of Ross' patches and being shocked at how trebly they sounded on their own, but figured that was what was needed to get cut through with a huge drum/bass sound. Maybe you need to treble it up past what's intuitive? I dunno, I'm guessing here.

[jeremyb]

Yarrrr I bet! Makes them really come alive, the HD500/X is let down by it's cab emulations, lots of people using separate IR loaders for recording etc... so going into an actual amp makes a lotta sense

Try going into a Line6 DT amp maybe? The reconfiguring of the power section to suit your modelling choices is actually pretty cool. The amp colours your tone more than a transparent amp of course, but then it offers many colours, not just one.

Mmmm had considered it, but I like the idea of a FRFR speaker, light and portable and I could use it for all sorts of other things too

[Eruera]

The Electro Voice ZLX 12P seem to be among the best regarded budget FRFR options on the fractal forum if that's any help.

[jeremyb]

The Electro Voice ZLX 12P seem to be among the best regarded budget FRFR options on the fractal forum if that's any help.

Interesting, $899 here, not one I've come across yet! I've heard good things about the Alto TS112A & TS115A, even cheaper, ~$499 & 599 here, going to try out the L6 stagesource L2T soon too

[Zaulkin]

That's good to know. I've got a cab with a Beta12CX installed + tweeter disabled. Sounds very much like an amp in the room. With the tweeter on it just sounds overly trebly and harsh. I don't have anything to compare it to at the moment though.

[opsguy]

Yarrrr I bet! Makes them really come alive, the HD500/X is let down by it's cab emulations, lots of people using separate IR loaders for recording etc... so going into an actual amp makes a lotta sense

Try going into a Line6 DT amp maybe? The reconfiguring of the power section to suit your modelling choices is actually pretty cool. The amp colours your tone more than a transparent amp of course, but then it offers many colours, not just one.

This is a good option. I used the HD500/DT amp setup for a couple of years. Line 6 link connection makes for simple setup and given the DT amp is a good amp just on its own if the hd500 breaks during a gig you have an easy backup.

[stuu]

Lunchbox?

[willow13]

Lunchbox?

he's a big boy now...doesn't need a lunchbox

[Danger Mouse]

Still not happy with my dirt tone, not cutting through as well as I'd like, might need to work on some EQ'ing.... I'm also keen to try a FRFR setup...

I remember downloading some of Ross' patches and being shocked at how trebly they sounded on their own, but figured that was what was needed to get cut through with a huge drum/bass sound. Maybe you need to treble it up past what's intuitive? I dunno, I'm guessing here.

It's a sound theory, my last guitar teacher had a H&K Switchblade, which was as sharp and trebley as the name would suggest (like being stabbed in the ears with a switchblade), but when he gigged it, it cut through amazingly well.

[sopachrga]

Still not happy with my dirt tone, not cutting through as well as I'd like, might need to work on some EQ'ing.... I'm also keen to try a FRFR setup...

Wait... isn't your dirt tone just still your Ryan built amp?
You were happy with that amp before, so what has changed? I thought the HD500 was pretty much out of the circuit when on the dirt channel?

Just a thought, have you checked what the input impedance is set to on the HD500? I always found that anything below 1M altered the frequency response in a bad way.

[jeremyb]

Still not happy with my dirt tone, not cutting through as well as I'd like, might need to work on some EQ'ing.... I'm also keen to try a FRFR setup...

I remember downloading some of Ross' patches and being shocked at how trebly they sounded on their own, but figured that was what was needed to get cut through with a huge drum/bass sound. Maybe you need to treble it up past what's intuitive? I dunno, I'm guessing here.

Might be onto something there!

[jeremyb]

Still not happy with my dirt tone, not cutting through as well as I'd like, might need to work on some EQ'ing.... I'm also keen to try a FRFR setup...

Wait... isn't your dirt tone just still your Ryan built amp?
You were happy with that amp before, so what has changed? I thought the HD500 was pretty much out of the circuit when on the dirt channel?

Just a thought, have you checked what the input impedance is set to on the HD500? I always found that anything below 1M altered the frequency response in a bad way.

Got the impedance at 1M, but it's probably to do with how I'm boosting the amp, using a cranked boost comp as I didn't like any of the od pedals, might have to revisit them

[godgrinder]

but it's probably to do with how I'm boosting the amp, using a cranked boost comp

Sounds like a bad idea. The Jose type circuitry already has TONS of compression going on.

Try using a parametric or graphic EQ in the HD500 as a boost if you don't dig OD pedals.

[jeremyb]

Setup some patches last night with amps and cabs on them, sounded pretty good thru the headphones, then tonight we had practice thru an interface and into the PA, e-kit, the works, was pretty cool, much quieter than normal and we could all hear each other clearly, would trade again! And the HD sounded pretty darn good too!

[stuu]

Thats a great result. We're looking at using a jamhub (w/ my helix, a vetta, and a bass flyrig) for writing. Just need half decent eDrums now. What kind is your drummer using?