BB distortion but with passive tone controlls?

[dylan]

I really like the quality of the xotic BB distortion, but i prefer passive tone controls to active.

Can anybody suggest a pedal that has BB sounding distortion and passive bass/treble knobs?

Would a timmy be the closest thing?

[Miza]

Haven't had any experience with a BB, but I had a Timmy for a while and was always really impressed with the tone controls. They're cut knobs, so they cut the treble and bass, rather than add it. Also, the bass is added after the gain circuit (I think), which helps it not sound flabby/muddy.
In terms of the gain, it doesn't colour your sound, just adds more of what you've got.
I really rate them.

[dylan]

After some searching of the interwebs it seems that the BB is a tubescreamer with an extra gain stage and no mid hump, and the timmy is not tubescreamery at all.

So what i want is a tubescreamer with no mid hump and with passive treble / bass knobs. Can anybody suggest one?

[sirvill]

Tubescreamer with no mid hump? Feel like it's not even helpful to describe it as a tubescreamer anymore lol

[Miza]

The Cusack Screamer is a pretty nice TS -type pedal without the mid hump, but just has a standard tone control.

[dylan]

Im starting to think what i actually want is a normal tubescreamer. I want a pedal that will turn rock levels of amp distortion into high gain for widdling, and boosts the fundamental frequencies of notes in the top octave. The 720hz hump of the ts seems just right for beefing up the fundamental of the high notes.

Ive gone right around in a circle back to the first stomp box i ever bought lol...

So now im looking for a tubescreamer with the mid hump but passive tone control.

[Molly]

Fulltone Full Drive 3?

[godgrinder]

Im starting to think what i actually want is a normal tubescreamer. I want a pedal that will turn rock levels of amp distortion into high gain for widdling, and boosts the fundamental frequencies of notes in the top octave. The 720hz hump of the ts seems just right for beefing up the fundamental of the high notes.

If your amp simply doesn't have enough gain, a standard TS won't help much since it doesn't have that much output volume to push the amp hard enough. A lot of metal guys use standard TS mainly for tightening up the low end of their already hi gain amp instead of using it for adding gain. You probably want to look into one of the TS variations with more output, Maxon OD808X etc.

[dylan]

Thanks for the sugestions, looks like a Caline CrazyCacti (FD2 clone) might be my next pedal purchase...

At the moment, out of Hotcake, BB , TS, Sweet baby, and Rat, the Rat (with added bass mod) is my favorite.

[druz15]

After some searching of the interwebs it seems that the BB is a tubescreamer with an extra gain stage and no mid hump, and the timmy is not tubescreamery at all.

So what i want is a tubescreamer with no mid hump and with passive treble / bass knobs. Can anybody suggest one?

Way Huge Green Rhino

[TmcB]

Haven't had any experience with a BB, but I had a Timmy for a while and was always really impressed with the tone controls. They're cut knobs, so they cut the treble and bass, rather than add it. Also, the bass is added after the gain circuit (I think), which helps it not sound flabby/muddy.
In terms of the gain, it doesn't colour your sound, just adds more of what you've got.
I really rate them.

Nah, it's pre gain which why you have to crank up the gain if you've backed all the way off the bass knob.

I should know, I just stole it

[TmcB]

After some searching of the interwebs it seems that the BB is a tubescreamer with an extra gain stage and no mid hump, and the timmy is not tubescreamery at all.

So what i want is a tubescreamer with no mid hump and with passive treble / bass knobs. Can anybody suggest one?

I'm actually just in the final stages of creating this!
It's called the Bronson, and it sounds awesome.

[dylan]

I think what i will do is start with a joyo TS clone, disable the tone circuit, then mod the bass / treble to how i want.

[TmcB]

I think what i will do is start with a joyo TS clone, disable the tone circuit, then mod the bass / treble to how i want.

If you're going that way, take a look at how a Timmy does its bass roll off; it's pretty straight forward.