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#837830
Downloading some more HX Stomp presets and ding some more tweaking to suit my needs.
This is a Plexi ish one I downloaded which I'm liking quite a bit so far.

Stomp 1 uses 2 delays all from the stomp
Stomp 2 is the same
Stomp 3 I used a Tone Bender MK2 for the lead going into the stomp.
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#837892
Reg18 wrote:
Eruera wrote:Is there a graceful way of switching between clean and dirty sounds without a dropout? Or do you have to use two blocks for different amps?


I setup FS1 to turn up the gain on the amp when engaged and it’s seemless that way, I haven’t tried switching to a different amp mid song yet but I am finding switching what they call snapshots there is a noticeable drop out which is annoying.


might be some confusion here: changing Patches[i][i] will cause a tiny drop out - about a 20th of a second. Unnoticeable in most situations but shows up if you have notes sustaining.
Changing snaphots is seamless...there is not drop out.

I have never been able to hear patch changing mutes in any of the gig recordings I did before the Snapshots were added in an upgrade...but I understand some styles of Metal etc might have to use snapshots.
I do use snaps in my current patches just cos I like them. ...and I have never purchased a patch and I can't recall ever deciding to edit bias etc. I use it exactly they way I would the actual hardware.
#837893
Lawrence wrote:
Reg18 wrote:
Eruera wrote:Is there a graceful way of switching between clean and dirty sounds without a dropout? Or do you have to use two blocks for different amps?


I setup FS1 to turn up the gain on the amp when engaged and it’s seemless that way, I haven’t tried switching to a different amp mid song yet but I am finding switching what they call snapshots there is a noticeable drop out which is annoying.


might be some confusion here: changing Patches[i][i] will cause a tiny drop out - about a 20th of a second. Unnoticeable in most situations but shows up if you have notes sustaining.
Changing snaphots is seamless...there is not drop out.

I have never been able to hear patch changing mutes in any of the gig recordings I did before the Snapshots were added in an upgrade...but I understand some styles of Metal etc might have to use snapshots.
I do use snaps in my current patches just cos I like them. ...and I have never purchased a patch and I can't recall ever deciding to edit bias etc. I use it exactly they way I would the actual hardware.


I was getting a bit confused between snapshots and presets I think, yes you are right snapshots has no noticeable drop out but if you change between presets it does. Can you change amps between snapshots? Like have a Fender on Snapshot 1 and a Plexi on Snapshot 2 for clean/dirty channels?

Bias does make a great difference to the feel and looseness of the sound, it doesn’t do much if your master is set low though and it effects some amps more than others. On the AC30 and Matchless models tweaking the Bias and Bias X controls lowers the gain quite a lot if you have them higher, and if you lower them to say 25% it loosens up the amp and has more gain. I haven’t adjusted these on presets I’ve bought though, just when I’m dialing in an amp myself.
#837894
actually yes...I have several patches with a clean amp , say the deluxe, and a dirty amp, say the Trainwreck. Using snapshots I can have several clean settings (from clean to edge to grit) and several drive levels, all on one patch. add a tape echo, wah and a phaser and that is 99% of the guitar repertoire!
#838512
what do people recommend to use for dialing in tones for live use.
I’m now running a Flint reverb after the HX Stomp so I either need to buy a headphone amp to come out of the Flint in stereo to plug my head phones in or invest in some studio monitors to play it through.
The presets do sound very different through a pair of home theatre speakers than my headphones so I’m guessing I’ll need some more neutral speakers?
#838515
Reg18 wrote:what do people recommend to use for dialing in tones for live use.


in this land of confusion there is, wonderfully, only ONE correct answer to this question.

Dial in your sounds with the same speakers you will use live...If you are going straight to the FOH, use the best flat monitor you can....and, do this at the same volume that you expect to be playing at live.
#838519
Reg18 wrote:what do people recommend to use for dialing in tones for live use.
I’m now running a Flint reverb after the HX Stomp so I either need to buy a headphone amp to come out of the Flint in stereo to plug my head phones in or invest in some studio monitors to play it through.
The presets do sound very different through a pair of home theatre speakers than my headphones so I’m guessing I’ll need some more neutral speakers?


Stereo headrush 12"s /smugness
#838521
Lawrence wrote:
Reg18 wrote:what do people recommend to use for dialing in tones for live use.


in this land of confusion there is, wonderfully, only ONE correct answer to this question.

Dial in your sounds with the same speakers you will use live...If you are going straight to the FOH, use the best flat monitor you can....and, do this at the same volume that you expect to be playing at live.


Yeah figured it might be the only accurate way. Does this mean my IEM mix will sound thin and crappy though?
Seems as though everyone is saying cut bass below 100hz and cut some treble as well to get a good mix with the Helix. It seems this digital learning curve is curveyer than I thought!
#838533
Maybe you need to bring in a outboard eq for your IEM? If its sounding great FOH, you don't want to mess with that. Only guessing

Its important that you're happy too, else you'll fell pissed off with your performance and it will show - so maybe a seperate eq for your in ears will allow you to dial in what you're missing and you can play your little heart out!
#838536
Reg18 wrote:what do people recommend to use for dialing in tones for live use.
I’m now running a Flint reverb after the HX Stomp so I either need to buy a headphone amp to come out of the Flint in stereo to plug my head phones in or invest in some studio monitors to play it through.
The presets do sound very different through a pair of home theatre speakers than my headphones so I’m guessing I’ll need some more neutral speakers?


why did you feel the need to have an external reverb, just curious that something like a helix couldn't cover a decent reverb patch and switch it in an out as required.
I thought your patches were pretty damn good from your earlier posts
#838537
It took me years really to fine tune how to get good tone from a valve amp and pedals and matching them with a great guitar! Looks like a might need a good number of gigs under my belt with the HX to really fine tune it to it’s full potential.
#838539
kwhelan wrote:
Reg18 wrote:what do people recommend to use for dialing in tones for live use.
I’m now running a Flint reverb after the HX Stomp so I either need to buy a headphone amp to come out of the Flint in stereo to plug my head phones in or invest in some studio monitors to play it through.
The presets do sound very different through a pair of home theatre speakers than my headphones so I’m guessing I’ll need some more neutral speakers?


why did you feel the need to have an external reverb, just curious that something like a helix couldn't cover a decent reverb patch and switch it in an out as required.
I thought your patches were pretty damn good from your earlier posts


Yes you are right, the Helix has great reverbs! However the HX Stomp has only got 6 blocks and runs out of DSP If you load it up to much.
I’m liking the sound of stereo amps too which technically takes up 4 blocks by the time you have 2 amps and 2 IRs.
I’m still trying to get my head around using Stomp mode/Snapshot mode and presets. At this stage I’ll keep the Flint incase but I reckon if I buy a midi controller and use an extra Aux switch I’d be able to do a bit of a work around to get everything out of the Stomp for a whole set.
#838541
I think IEM’s take some getting used to as well. They’re probably one of the most practical advancements in live sound gear there is/was, but I really struggled when I’ve used them in the past. I’ll go good monitors wherever possible.
However, I’d be interested in hearing an expensive, tour-grade setup and how much they differ from the sort of middle priced setups I’ve tried and failed to gel with though. It’s all personal preference I guess.
Interesting that it seems to be IEM’s or the highway in some situations nowadays!
All the best for working it out :thumbup: