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Sounds like you need an amp like pedal doing the work so the digital end is just adding volume.

Something like a Tech 21 Blonde or Catalinbread formula 55 maybe?

Cdog wrote:Build an iso cab?

Or iso box. Seriously, I'm thinking of building one for home... so I can get back into recording. There was a guy on TM selling 18mm mdf coversheets cheap, throw on some foam/batts/etc and turn it up. ez

Seems to me you're trying to use your pedalboard to compensate for a problem with the amp & cab modelling, and perhaps you should be addressing the real root of the problem. Have you tried other amp models, different settings and different cab IRs? If the cab sim is a high headroom, clean, efficient speaker (like a Celestion Gold), you may really struggle to achieve the sound you are looking for, whereas a different IR may work a lot better.

Otherwise, I think Jimi's suggestion is very good. I've tried quite a few different tweed pedals and something like the Lovepedal Les Lius might give you exactly what you want.

Also, in this situation, I would suggest running the compressor after your drive pedals.

I've been following your post & it got me thinking about how to fatten up the sound on my Fender Ramparte amp which is a bit bright for my taste. I saw that a Timmy had been suggested as a possible solution for you, so I tried out my Danelectro Transparent OverDrive VI (the Timmy clone), it worked well either by itself or before other effects. I turned the gain down to zero & the tone controls to midway and set the volume for unity.

Origin Effects Cali 76 compressor might do it for you.

Can your digital do 4x6L6 Fender Twin

calling card wrote:Can your digital do 4x6L6 Fender Twin

It just has clean/crunch/High gain etc, not specific models. However it does have a switch on the back for changing class A or class A/B and you can select 6v6,EL84,KT88,6L6,EL34 simulation although I’ve played a lot with them and prefer 6V6 in class A/B the most but I’ll keep on experimenting.
I think the cab sims could be a key part of the equation I could experiment with, I think we settled on a Marshall 4x12 with GT75s, the Greenback version was ok too.

Aquila Rossa wrote:Origin Effects Cali 76 compressor might do it for you.

Si has one for sale and if I can raise the funds I’ll probably give it a try.
Although I think my Diamond Comp JR is actually pretty good the Cali looks way more tweakable!

Reg18 wrote:

calling card wrote:Can your digital do 4x6L6 Fender Twin

It just has clean/crunch/High gain etc, not specific models. However it does have a switch on the back for changing class A or class A/B and you can select 6v6,EL84,KT88,6L6,EL34 simulation although I’ve played a lot with them and prefer 6V6 in class A/B the most but I’ll keep on experimenting.
I think the cab sims could be a key part of the equation I could experiment with, I think we settled on a Marshall 4x12 with GT75s, the Greenback version was ok too.

6V6 class A will be most like your tweed amp.

Reg18 wrote:

Aquila Rossa wrote:Origin Effects Cali 76 compressor might do it for you.

Si has one for sale and if I can raise the funds I’ll probably give it a try.
Although I think my Diamond Comp JR is actually pretty good the Cali looks way more tweakable!

I think your Diamond compressor will be just fine, the problems are elsewhere. Also, I've had a Cali76 and I think they're over-hyped/over-priced.

In this situation, for a start, I'd ignore anyone who offers advice who doesn't use a digital rig, or have tried it, or suggests anything when they clearly haven't read your post - as in attenuators etc etc...

Can you take the unit home and experiment because without doing that you aren't going to get to a stage where you get comfortable with a tone. And with your board you might be smashing the front end or not hitting it hard enough or a multitude of different things.

Do you just get to play with it on the day and rehearsals? Cos you aint going to sort tone in 7 days, even with a day off

Bg wrote:In this situation, for a start, I'd ignore anyone who offers advice who doesn't use a digital rig, or have tried it, or suggests anything when they clearly haven't read your post - as in attenuators etc etc...

Can you take the unit home and experiment because without doing that you aren't going to get to a stage where you get comfortable with a tone. And with your board you might be smashing the front end or not hitting it hard enough or a multitude of different things.

Do you just get to play with it on the day and rehearsals? Cos you aint going to sort tone in 7 days, even with a day off

Yeah I can probably take one of them home, which might be the only way to probably experiment. I’m not sure if the factors like going through the DI to the desk and back to my ears contribute much in the equation.
My first thoughts are trying some different IRs or even making one of my own cab.
Second will be changing the position of the compressor to after overdrives to see if that changes things and then maybe buy a different compressor or even some different OD pedals to see what works. Although as usual if you get the base clean tone right most OD pedals can sound good!

Have you got any delay or reverb added on the amp. It goes a long way to making a DI signal sound sustaining and alive on my little THD10. I would suggest taking the amp home. It models tubes so you should be able to get a nice compression from it by adjusting the gain/master interaction. Also try the crunch (vox) and Lead (plexi) models on a lower gain setting. It might be more of a clean you like.