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#807175
Seems to me you're trying to use your pedalboard to compensate for a problem with the amp & cab modelling, and perhaps you should be addressing the real root of the problem. Have you tried other amp models, different settings and different cab IRs? If the cab sim is a high headroom, clean, efficient speaker (like a Celestion Gold), you may really struggle to achieve the sound you are looking for, whereas a different IR may work a lot better.
#807217
I've been following your post & it got me thinking about how to fatten up the sound on my Fender Ramparte amp which is a bit bright for my taste. I saw that a Timmy had been suggested as a possible solution for you, so I tried out my Danelectro Transparent OverDrive VI (the Timmy clone), it worked well either by itself or before other effects. I turned the gain down to zero & the tone controls to midway and set the volume for unity.
#807238
calling card wrote:Can your digital do 4x6L6 Fender Twin


It just has clean/crunch/High gain etc, not specific models. However it does have a switch on the back for changing class A or class A/B and you can select 6v6,EL84,KT88,6L6,EL34 simulation although I’ve played a lot with them and prefer 6V6 in class A/B the most but I’ll keep on experimenting.
I think the cab sims could be a key part of the equation I could experiment with, I think we settled on a Marshall 4x12 with GT75s, the Greenback version was ok too.
#807239
Aquila Rossa wrote:Origin Effects Cali 76 compressor might do it for you.


Si has one for sale and if I can raise the funds I’ll probably give it a try.
Although I think my Diamond Comp JR is actually pretty good the Cali looks way more tweakable!
#807244
Reg18 wrote:
calling card wrote:Can your digital do 4x6L6 Fender Twin


It just has clean/crunch/High gain etc, not specific models. However it does have a switch on the back for changing class A or class A/B and you can select 6v6,EL84,KT88,6L6,EL34 simulation although I’ve played a lot with them and prefer 6V6 in class A/B the most but I’ll keep on experimenting.
I think the cab sims could be a key part of the equation I could experiment with, I think we settled on a Marshall 4x12 with GT75s, the Greenback version was ok too.

6V6 class A will be most like your tweed amp.
#807247
Reg18 wrote:
Aquila Rossa wrote:Origin Effects Cali 76 compressor might do it for you.


Si has one for sale and if I can raise the funds I’ll probably give it a try.
Although I think my Diamond Comp JR is actually pretty good the Cali looks way more tweakable!

I think your Diamond compressor will be just fine, the problems are elsewhere. Also, I've had a Cali76 and I think they're over-hyped/over-priced.
#807275
In this situation, for a start, I'd ignore anyone who offers advice who doesn't use a digital rig, or have tried it, or suggests anything when they clearly haven't read your post - as in attenuators etc etc...

Can you take the unit home and experiment because without doing that you aren't going to get to a stage where you get comfortable with a tone. And with your board you might be smashing the front end or not hitting it hard enough or a multitude of different things.

Do you just get to play with it on the day and rehearsals? Cos you aint going to sort tone in 7 days, even with a day off ;)
#807287
Bg wrote:In this situation, for a start, I'd ignore anyone who offers advice who doesn't use a digital rig, or have tried it, or suggests anything when they clearly haven't read your post - as in attenuators etc etc...

Can you take the unit home and experiment because without doing that you aren't going to get to a stage where you get comfortable with a tone. And with your board you might be smashing the front end or not hitting it hard enough or a multitude of different things.

Do you just get to play with it on the day and rehearsals? Cos you aint going to sort tone in 7 days, even with a day off ;)


Yeah I can probably take one of them home, which might be the only way to probably experiment. I’m not sure if the factors like going through the DI to the desk and back to my ears contribute much in the equation.
My first thoughts are trying some different IRs or even making one of my own cab.
Second will be changing the position of the compressor to after overdrives to see if that changes things and then maybe buy a different compressor or even some different OD pedals to see what works. Although as usual if you get the base clean tone right most OD pedals can sound good!