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BY Delayman
#788244
Scooter13 wrote:Gotta have a teeny of bit distortion on the bass with a single guitar rock band. Otherwise the ass drops out when the guitarist goes and solo's.
I reckon Tube bass amps are the best at doing this, but most bassists I know can't afford those shenanigans, so revert to some sort of pedal.
(Tony's old Orange AD200 was the tits. God I'd love the bassist in my band to have one of those.)

A little bit of grit on everything seems to help.
BY foal30
#788396
sty wrote:I've been following this with interest and my first thoughts would have been (as I think has been mentioned and possibly diagnosed) that something in the pedal chain is bringing the signal up towards line level rather than instrument level (something in my mind says that some/most? fx loops run at line-level, or can be switched to run at line level - hence can handle this happily).


So my question is, assuming that the finger is pointing to the Sadowsky DI/Pedal, what does this pedal do for you? why do you like it's sound and what purpose is it serving if you're still using the amps front end? A total guess would be you're using it as a buffer or something similar and maybe getting some nice colourisation you're liking, perhaps you could replace it with a straightforward buffer that works at the right level and does any of the impedance matching you need.

I guess the Yang to that questions Ying is: what is it that you like/need from your Amps pre-amp/input circuits and could you possibly find something to put in your signal chain to get that tone/feel and then go direct into the Fx Return?


I use it as a "sub" enhancement
Like super low end

They are also for the shit for live performance with a Jazz Bass.
BY foal30
#788880
jeremyb wrote:Ahhhh those kind of pedals have an incredibly hot output, they're really designed to run into a power amp like a PA system, not a normal amp with an existing preamp :)


Going to run a couple of Jazz Basses into the Sadowsky - Power Amp - PA Speakers this afternoon given how crap this Chch weather is.
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BY jumpingtam
#789523
foal30 wrote:
jeremyb wrote:Ahhhh those kind of pedals have an incredibly hot output, they're really designed to run into a power amp like a PA system, not a normal amp with an existing preamp :)


Going to run a couple of Jazz Basses into the Sadowsky - Power Amp - PA Speakers this afternoon given how crap this Chch weather is.


have you found the cause of the problem?
BY foal30
#789547
Scooter13 wrote:Gotta have a teeny of bit distortion on the bass with a single guitar rock band. Otherwise the ass drops out when the guitarist goes and solo's.
I reckon Tube bass amps are the best at doing this, but most bassists I know can't afford those shenanigans, so revert to some sort of pedal.
(Tony's old Orange AD200 was the tits. God I'd love the bassist in my band to have one of those.)


After playing through Tony's Orange a couple of times I was going to buy one but got an unpassable deal on an Ashdown CTM-300
BY foal30
#789548
jumpingtam wrote:
foal30 wrote:
jeremyb wrote:Ahhhh those kind of pedals have an incredibly hot output, they're really designed to run into a power amp like a PA system, not a normal amp with an existing preamp :)


Going to run a couple of Jazz Basses into the Sadowsky - Power Amp - PA Speakers this afternoon given how crap this Chch weather is.


have you found the cause of the problem?


No

I'm best guessing that
- the Sadowsky is too 'hot'
- the Amp input doesn't like variable power pedals (ie: not all are 9v)
- there is a variation in what the Amp input and the Amps effects loop can tolerate.
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BY jumpingtam
#789579
foal30 wrote:
jumpingtam wrote:
foal30 wrote:
Going to run a couple of Jazz Basses into the Sadowsky - Power Amp - PA Speakers this afternoon given how crap this Chch weather is.


have you found the cause of the problem?


No

I'm best guessing that
- the Sadowsky is too 'hot'
- the Amp input doesn't like variable power pedals (ie: not all are 9v)
- there is a variation in what the Amp input and the Amps effects loop can tolerate.


I'm guessing the rest of the pedals work if you remove the Sadowsky from the chain?
BY foal30
#789595
jumpingtam wrote:
foal30 wrote:
jumpingtam wrote:
have you found the cause of the problem?


No

I'm best guessing that
- the Sadowsky is too 'hot'
- the Amp input doesn't like variable power pedals (ie: not all are 9v)
- there is a variation in what the Amp input and the Amps effects loop can tolerate.


I'm guessing the rest of the pedals work if you remove the Sadowsky from the chain?


No , the Diamond Compressor won't turn on when I get to 6 pedals in the chain.

I have no idea why something would switch on in the effects loop but not in the amp input but I'm like very uneducated in anything electrical.
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BY Single coil
#789606
Dont spose you’re exceeding the current thing of your power supply?
BY foal30
#792958
Single coil wrote:Dont spose you’re exceeding the current thing of your power supply?


I've reduced down to this

Bass into Pitch-black > 3Leaf Proton > Boss PBEQ > Boss BF2> EBS Filter > Dunlop Bass Wah > Tech 21 Chorus > Wounded Paw Fuxx > out to Amp

Band practice tonight run it through the 300Watt valve head from the front.
Fingers crossed.
BY foal30
#793116
Well it works
But I miss both the Diamond and Sadowsky

I assume it's possible to have one board in
And another board through the effects loop