1964 FB III meets Router

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1964 FB III meets Router

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But before I am burnt at the stake by the AVH's (look it up http://www.mylespaul.com/threads/a-v-h- ... ble.98655/) there's a story.

This is an amazing guitar. It feels great, is balanced and best of all, it has great acoustic tone. The neck pickup is sublime, but it's bridge partner was not. So, I took a great sounding Shaw, added a ThroBak A5 unoriented magnet and some Stephens Design pole pieces and removed wood! Got a nice nickel ring for it and bam!

The guitar had already been routed for buckers when I got it, and was black rattle can spray. So it was far from an original guitar. Now it is a fantastic guitar! Nil regrets.

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Looks awesome Grant!!!
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lovely colour :) poly?
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Nitro - Mr Hamilton's work!

Steve, you might interested....I got the Shaw stock standard at 8.03K, changed the magnet and got 8.26k. Nice little boost.
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Very nice result !

Note: The pickup DC resistance is not effected by the magnet, I expect it was a temperature change that gave you the differing values.
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Blimey, that is one hell of a nice Epiphone. I want it!
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sizzlingbadger wrote:Very nice result !

Note: The pickup DC resistance is not effected by the magnet, I expect it was a temperature change that gave you the differing values.
That i didn’t know. I’ve done the same with TTops to make them hotter (well, I thought that until now) - replace old short magnet with new long magnet and found that the sound is indeed brighter, and hotter/ read higher. Clearly I’m doing something weird to get that result. So what makes the reading go up - warmer temp or colder? BTW i changed these magnets within 30 Seconds of each other and barely touched the coils.
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Nice work Grant, I really like that!!

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God, I love the look of Firebirds and red just reminds me of the Roxy Music Custom one. Congrats.

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Fukin hell Grant , your awesome !
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Noooice!

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GrantB wrote:
sizzlingbadger wrote:Very nice result !

Note: The pickup DC resistance is not effected by the magnet, I expect it was a temperature change that gave you the differing values.
That i didn’t know. I’ve done the same with TTops to make them hotter (well, I thought that until now) - replace old short magnet with new long magnet and found that the sound is indeed brighter, and hotter/ read higher. Clearly I’m doing something weird to get that result. So what makes the reading go up - warmer temp or colder? BTW i changed these magnets within 30 Seconds of each other and barely touched the coils.
Your premise that the pickup sounds hotter is correct if the new magnet is stronger. It is the increase in magnetic field that increases the milli Volts that the pickup outputs to the amp. You can achieve that by more windings too which would increase the DC resistance. It is the latter you are measuring and without adding or reducing the number of wire turns it should be fairly constant. There was a reasonably easy read on Reverb recently which goes into pickup basics... Have a read of that and you will realise that what you are doing is one way of changing a pickup's behaviour, and obviously to your ear's liking.
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Damn, what a beauty, look at that bridge! haha

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That looks great Grant!

Just out of interest, what was behind the reason you didn't paint it yourself? You're a very competent painter, was it just a lack of time? Or did this guitar need special attention to the paint job?

before you actually purchased the guitar had you planned out everything that you wanted to do to the guitar? Or did it take a while to make a decision?
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Very cool yes

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