For sure, nothing is absolute. I've never owned but had occasion to play around a dozen original Bursts over the years and only two of them were great guitars. Modern construction streamlining has eliminated much of the variability between instruments but it never will completely as not every single neck / body blank wil be blessed with the same quality of resonance etc. They will all however improve with playing.Molly wrote: Naa. That doesn't concern me. I've had oldish guitars that sucked and newish that didn't. But if they start out great then I can only imagine what they'd be like a decade later (for obvious reasons).
A new guitar is like a Dog.
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Re: A new guitar is like a Dog.
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Re: A new guitar is like a Dog.
Every now & than you get a good one, I've had some mutts but they are all characters and memory makes me cringe, smile or laugh.
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Re: A new guitar is like a Dog.
Yep, good and bad guitars in all marques and eras. Though my experience is limited to guitars from the 70's onwards. I know people rave about the squire JV range, and mine was awesome, bought new and loved it. Have consequently played 2 rather dead examples. And bought a rather crap tokai strat from the same period a few years back. Recent fernandes Tele was awesome, but vintage radius and frets aren't for me! Its gone.Dharmajester wrote:For sure, nothing is absolute. I've never owned but had occasion to play around a dozen original Bursts over the years and only two of them were great guitars. Modern construction streamlining has eliminated much of the variability between instruments but it never will completely as not every single neck / body blank wil be blessed with the same quality of resonance etc. They will all however improve with playing.Molly wrote: Naa. That doesn't concern me. I've had oldish guitars that sucked and newish that didn't. But if they start out great then I can only imagine what they'd be like a decade later (for obvious reasons).
I don't get the dog connection though? Maybe it should be Cat, as Cats are for life!
p.s. Molly's new guitars are may flies.....
So, is that low alcohol or no alcohol at all? mmmm, no alcohol, do you want to try it? Noooooooooo.
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Re: A new guitar is like a Dog.
Probably but we're used to that by now. Diverts attention from all the other flipping.Bg wrote:Yep, good and bad guitars in all marques and eras. Though my experience is limited to guitars from the 70's onwards. I know people rave about the squire JV range, and mine was awesome, bought new and loved it. Have consequently played 2 rather dead examples. And bought a rather crap tokai strat from the same period a few years back. Recent fernandes Tele was awesome, but vintage radius and frets aren't for me! Its gone.Dharmajester wrote:For sure, nothing is absolute. I've never owned but had occasion to play around a dozen original Bursts over the years and only two of them were great guitars. Modern construction streamlining has eliminated much of the variability between instruments but it never will completely as not every single neck / body blank wil be blessed with the same quality of resonance etc. They will all however improve with playing.Molly wrote: Naa. That doesn't concern me. I've had oldish guitars that sucked and newish that didn't. But if they start out great then I can only imagine what they'd be like a decade later (for obvious reasons).
I don't get the dog connection though? Maybe it should be Cat, as Cats are for life!
p.s. Molly's new guitars are may flies.....
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Just warning any misguided soul who may be considering selling you a beloved pet....
So, is that low alcohol or no alcohol at all? mmmm, no alcohol, do you want to try it? Noooooooooo.
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Why would someone sell a beloved pet?Bg wrote:Just warning any misguided soul who may be considering selling you a beloved pet....
It'd be fine with me unless it was potentially delicious.
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Re: A new guitar is like a Dog.
Dogs or at least the ones I've had the pleasure of owning ( big mofo's) tend to have a 10 year lifespan which is about the time it takes to break a brand new guitar in properly. Hence them both being a 10 year commitment.Bg wrote: I don't get the dog connection though? .
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Re: A new guitar is like a Dog.
So succinctly asked.AiRdAd wrote:Disregarding the feel of the guitar (with playing a guitar making it feel more comfortable), and the changes to the electrics (with pot and cap values changing over time) - How does age and playing change the physical properties of the wood on an electric guitar to make it better?
I agree with Slowy for acoustics as there is a lot of physical stuff going on to make sounds. But for solid body electrics?
The only thing I can think of is if the body's resonant peak somehow changes over time to become a better 'match' for the pickups.
Actually, I don;t know what I am talking about. Esoteric stuff all that. It probably is all in the mind of the player and or owner
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Re: A new guitar is like a Dog.
Not sure if I can still win it, but it's poodle-free zone around here!jeremyb wrote:Codedog will win this by a milecrowbgood1 wrote:Someone start a, show us your dog thread. I'm guessing there'd be a lot of poodles.
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Was more for the sheer number of doggiescodedog wrote:Not sure if I can still win it, but it's poodle-free zone around here!jeremyb wrote:Codedog will win this by a milecrowbgood1 wrote:Someone start a, show us your dog thread. I'm guessing there'd be a lot of poodles.
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Re: A new guitar is like a Dog.
Not even sure about that Someone else here is married to a vet or vet nurse too... they're probably up there in numbers too!jeremyb wrote:Was more for the sheer number of doggiescodedog wrote:Not sure if I can still win it, but it's poodle-free zone around here!jeremyb wrote:
Codedog will win this by a mile
Back to the original topic, 10 years is a bit of a stretch in most breeds. In our breed, the Bernese Mountain Dogs, there's a Swiss adage that goes something like "... 3 years a young dog, 3 years a good dog, 3 years an old dog, and all else is a gift from God..." So yeah, you may need to pick longer living species...
Also agree, puppies are a lot of work and, if you're lucky, equal amounts of fun too. Some pups are a heck of a lot of work. In that sense guitars are the opposite. I imagine you don't really want to put in that much effort into a brand new guitar, right? I know a lot of people seem to have an itch to tear out stock components as soon as possible.
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I was just about to say don't they have freakishly short lifespan? ... then I remembered who we're talking about...Bg wrote: p.s. Molly's new guitars are may flies.....
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Re: A new guitar is like a Dog.
I've had four guitars that were dogs. They all got put down fast.
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