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BY Conway
#719023
olegmcnoleg wrote:There is a blue pre-lawsuit singlecut on TM... I like this model.

But I think I prefer the finish on the one Molly has at the moment.

The blue one on trademe was offered on here not long ago.

Pre lawsuit for PRS is a bit of a nonsense actually, as PRS won the lawsuit brought by Gibson, so it never had to make any changes to the design.
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BY Molly
#719025
olegmcnoleg wrote:There is a blue pre-lawsuit singlecut on TM... I like this model.

But I think I prefer the finish on the one Molly has at the moment.


The other day I was asked how my 245 stacked-up against my lawsuit era PRS (same as that blue one on TM). This is what I thought:

Not having it to hand I have to go by memory. This one is certainly the more 'alive' of the two and I definitely prefer the pickups - Hulk pickups were nothing to write home about. The old one would've perhaps been better suited to high-gain stuff. What's clear to me is that PRS continue to develop their guitars even if the model name stays the same. If you offered to trade me the old one back plus the cash difference this one cost me (about an additional $1,100) I wouldn't be interested.

So I really think there's more to it than there might at first seem. My present one and that blue one on TM are very different guitars.
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BY slash-ed
#719027
Conway wrote:
olegmcnoleg wrote:There is a blue pre-lawsuit singlecut on TM... I like this model.

But I think I prefer the finish on the one Molly has at the moment.

The blue one on trademe was offered on here not long ago.

Pre lawsuit for PRS is a bit of a nonsense actually, as PRS won the lawsuit brought by Gibson, so it never had to make any changes to the design.


No changes were made as a result of the lawsuit, BUT in recent years PRS have changed the formula of the Singlecuts quite a bit.

In fact if anything the Singlecut specs seem to be devolving into Gibson-type specs, with the introduction of things like:

- Neck binding
- 24.75" scale
- Two piece TOM bridges
- Pickups designed to emulate late 50s designs

I'm a huge fan of PRS but this trend is a little disappointing. For me, Paul's strength has always been in innovating and doing things that the other big two haven't done or don't do.
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BY sirvill
#719028
I cycle between thinking that the PRS singlecut looks awesome, and that it looks like a slightly melted version of an LP.
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BY codedog
#719029
As I mentioned earlier I like different elements in both PRS SCs and the Les Paul. PRS has enough other designs that would keep me happily wallowing in PRS-ness had I been able to afford it. However, IMHO, the MacCarty SC594 is a perfect combination of what the elements I like in PRS SCs and LPs.
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BY Conway
#719030
slash-ed wrote:In fact if anything the Singlecut specs seem to be devolving into Gibson-type specs, with the introduction of things like:

- Neck binding
- 24.75" scale
- Two piece TOM bridges
- Pickups designed to emulate late 50s designs

I'm a huge fan of PRS but this trend is a little disappointing. For me, Paul's strength has always been in innovating and doing things that the other big two haven't done or don't do.

The scale length is 24.5" (or the new McCarty is 24.594"), and I think the pickups have always had a nod in that direction but continue to evolve as Paul wants them to go. But yeah, the binding and 2 piece bridges have been a bit controversial and are probably there in large part to entice Gibson buyers across.
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BY slash-ed
#719033
Haha no, PRS pickups have never really been a nod towards any direction other than Paul's. Until this whole 58/08 59/09 etc nonsense began.

The #7 pickups that came in the original Singlecuts were hot as hell, no PAF pretense there.

24.75 / 24.5", potato/other potato. Abandoning the signature PRS scale length either way.
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BY Conway
#719035
slash-ed wrote:Haha no, PRS pickups have never really been a nod towards any direction other than Paul's. Until this whole 58/08 59/09 etc nonsense began.

The #7 pickups that came in the original Singlecuts were hot as hell, no PAF pretense there.

24.75 / 24.5", potato/other potato. Abandoning the signature PRS scale length either way.

The Custom 22/24 models - the PRS flagship - has always been, and remains 25" scale. But they've always had other scale lengths, like the Santana which I'm pretty sure has been 24.5" right from the start. They've also had 25.25" scale at times and now 24.594".
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BY Molly
#719259
Thanks to Conway's learned guidance I can add this to the thread and my collection :-)

It's a DGT. Lots of subtle differences to other, similar looking models; all of which I like the idea of.

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Thanks Conway. :thumbup:
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BY Conway
#719265
Well done. :thumbup: No need to thank me Molly, you're the one who opened their wallet for it! :wink:
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BY Molly
#719272
Conway wrote:Owned this one briefly after kiwiaxe and before opsguy then Molly.

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Ah... Well, with the DGT on the way in, this may have to be on the way out. We'll see what Santa says. :-)
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BY Molly
#719279
sirvill wrote:What's that worth *sweats profusely*


$2,900 guvnor. Think that's what opsguy sold it to me for. Need to double-check. Anyway, whatever that was. :-)
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BY faceless
#719620
Molly wrote:Thanks to Conway's learned guidance I can add this to the thread and my collection :-)

It's a DGT. Lots of subtle differences to other, similar looking models; all of which I like the idea of.

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Thanks Conway. :thumbup:


Now that's the tobacco burst I am talking about.

These DGT's supposed to have thicker bodies like McCarty's. I heard heaps of great stuff about this model. Congrats!
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