NPD: King Of Tone!

[robthemac]

Except for the wait, this thing is in the same ballpark as Duellist, Protein, and various Nordvang ones.

Do you mean in the terms of sound or resale value?

[codedog]

Except for the wait, this thing is in the same ballpark as Duellist, Protein, and various Nordvang ones.

Do you mean in the terms of sound or resale value?

Sorry, I meant purely in new purchase price.

[Slowy]

I assume there are some forumites who have owned the real thing and flicked it. Could be because the clones are just as good, or to make some money, or both. Am I right? Except for the wait, this thing is in the same ballpark as Duellist, Protein, and various Nordvang ones.

I've never owned an original but I have a friend with one. Based on listening to that, I bought one of Mike's clones. I'm the wrong person to judge 'one better than the other' because I listen to gear in a context. My clone is like my Rockbox Boiling Point; the only drive you need live but way more than playing at home requires.

And no, I'm not claiming a KOT and Boiling Point are the same, the Boiling Point has a far wider range of tones but both are brilliant at what they do.

[robthemac]

Except for the wait, this thing is in the same ballpark as Duellist, Protein, and various Nordvang ones.

Do you mean in the terms of sound or resale value?

Sorry, I meant purely in new purchase price.

The boutique OD thing is getting a bit out of hand. Especially from the new names. Looking at you, 1981 Pedals.

[codedog]

I assume there are some forumites who have owned the real thing and flicked it. Could be because the clones are just as good, or to make some money, or both. Am I right? Except for the wait, this thing is in the same ballpark as Duellist, Protein, and various Nordvang ones.

I've never owned an original but I have a friend with one. Based on listening to that, I bought one of Mike's clones. I'm the wrong person to judge 'one better than the other' because I listen to gear in a context. My clone is like my Rockbox Boiling Point; the only drive you need live but way more than playing at home requires.

And no, I'm not claiming a KOT and Boiling Point are the same, the Boiling Point has a far wider range of tones but both are brilliant at what they do.

To be honest, I have never done A/B tests before. I usually have certain qualities I look for in a pedal, and test for those independently. I'm genuinely curious to A/B this one though.

This is probably one of the most mythical of OD pedals after the horsey one. I have no doubt the myth is probably somewhat unjustified, but when has that ever stopped our brand snobbery, eh?

[robthemac]

I assume there are some forumites who have owned the real thing and flicked it. Could be because the clones are just as good, or to make some money, or both. Am I right? Except for the wait, this thing is in the same ballpark as Duellist, Protein, and various Nordvang ones.

I've never owned an original but I have a friend with one. Based on listening to that, I bought one of Mike's clones. I'm the wrong person to judge 'one better than the other' because I listen to gear in a context. My clone is like my Rockbox Boiling Point; the only drive you need live but way more than playing at home requires.

And no, I'm not claiming a KOT and Boiling Point are the same, the Boiling Point has a far wider range of tones but both are brilliant at what they do.

To be honest, I have never done A/B tests before. I usually have certain qualities I look for in a pedal, and test for those independently. I'm genuinely curious to A/B this one though.

This is probably one of the most mythical of OD pedals after the horsey one. I have no doubt the myth is probably somewhat unjustified, but when has that ever stopped our brand snobbery, eh?

I've done plenty of proper blinded A-B comparisons with hi-fi gear, and have consistently found that the point of being unable to tell the difference is well within the budget arena.

[MikeC]

I assume there are some forumites who have owned the real thing and flicked it. Could be because the clones are just as good, or to make some money, or both. Am I right? Except for the wait, this thing is in the same ballpark as Duellist, Protein, and various Nordvang ones.

The thing is, a clone will never be the real thing! Even if it does sound/play just as good or better. Same as guitars. I'm just really interested to know if there is an audible difference. You'll need to blind test them...

[MikeC]

Can you post a pic of the guts so I can see the DIP switches. NOTE, mine is not an HG model (which is done with a POT value change so one could modify it to be an HG model). Ergo mine only does Boost, OD or Distortion. Bear it in mind when comparing - my D knob will need to be turned more to get close to the HG side of yours.

[codedog]

Can you post a pic of the guts so I can see the DIP switches. NOTE, mine is not an HG model (which is done with a POT value change so one could modify it to be an HG model). Ergo mine only does Boost, OD or Distortion. Bear it in mind when comparing - my D knob will need to be turned more to get close to the HG side of yours.

There's a photo a page or two back. Is that enough, or do you need particular details?

[MikeC]

Nah, that's perfect. Now I'll show you mine

[sizzlingbadger]

The magic is in the Ukrainian battery.

[codedog]

Nah, that's perfect. Now I'll show you mine

Lurvly! What are those two slide switches in the bottom corners?

[MikeC]

I just realised, they are for switchable hi-gain/standard-gain. So mine is set hi-gain with overdrive on the right side & boost of the left side.

[codedog]

I just realised, they are for switchable hi-gain/standard-gain. So mine is set hi-gain with overdrive on the right side & boost of the left side.

Right, the opposite of mine. Just flip them, I guess.

[MikeC]

I've just packaged it so will leave as is but you are welcome to flip them yourself. Courier booked for collection tomorrow.