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Re: NWTFHTY Guitar Day
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:52 am
by Single coil
Ok so, how do I get in on this stinky guitar club?
Or have I had stinky guitars all along and never realised?
Re: NWTFHTY Guitar Day
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:01 pm
by Jay
Re: NWTFHTY Guitar Day
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:51 pm
by Slowy
So any opinions on what's going on here?
These two shows a tide line which made me suspect water. 2&3 show clouding. Everywhere, the finish is sound; it's not flaking or lifting.
This last one is the weirdest of all. I was confident it was a large deposit of dirt but nothing shifts it.
Re: NWTFHTY Guitar Day
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:07 pm
by Jay
The last one is a bit of paper sticker. If you can't remove it, it possibly suggest that the thing has been resprayed with a very thin layer of some sort of finish. That could then also explain the other cloudy bits as it looks like moisture has been trapped. If the thing is solid, I doubt there was actual contact with water. If it plays well and is structurally sound, then these photos are showing character
Re: NWTFHTY Guitar Day
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:14 pm
by Slowy
jvpp wrote:The last one is a bit of paper sticker. If you can't remove it, it possibly suggest that the thing has been resprayed with a very thin layer of some sort of finish. That could then also explain the other cloudy bits as it looks like moisture has been trapped. If the thing is solid, I doubt there was actual contact with water. If it plays well and is structurally sound, then these photos are showing character
It is a paper sticker. I was actually referring to the lumpy black deposit covering the full width of the side.
Respray...Hmmmm
Re: NWTFHTY Guitar Day
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:31 pm
by k1w1
Nope, what you have there is oxidation and mould. Best treatment is oxalic acid and scrubbing. This is the best tutorial, I used this technique on a guitar with the same symptoms and it fixed it perfect.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tViTWUL8Was
What is more is I bought a biggish bottle of oxalic acid so PM me and I'll send you enough to do the job.
Re: NWTFHTY Guitar Day
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:44 pm
by AiRdAd
Looking at those stains... it's obvious what has happened... someone took the strings off it and used as a bedpan!!!
Re: NWTFHTY Guitar Day
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:00 pm
by Jay
That cloudy stuff is mould? Penetrated into the finish or stuck on the finish?
Re: NWTFHTY Guitar Day
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:31 pm
by k1w1
I would say it looks like the finish has been broken/lifted or water damaged so oxidation or mould has got under the finish.
Re: NWTFHTY Guitar Day
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:36 pm
by GrantB
k1w1 wrote:I would say it looks like the finish has been broken/lifted or water damaged so oxidation or mould has got under the finish.
My assessment also. This guitar has known moist like most of us only dream of.
Re: NWTFHTY Guitar Day
Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:46 am
by Single coil
That you jb?
Re: NWTFHTY Guitar Day
Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 6:33 am
by AiRdAd
I think that the guitar looks fantastic!!!! I wouldn't change anything
Re: NWTFHTY Guitar Day
Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 7:12 pm
by Slowy
GrantB wrote:k1w1 wrote:I would say it looks like the finish has been broken/lifted or water damaged so oxidation or mould has got under the finish.
My assessment also. This guitar has known moist like most of us only dream of.
Much moist is my best guess too. But it makes me smile every time I look at it.
Re: NWTFHTY Guitar Day
Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 7:54 pm
by k1w1
Found a ziplock bag so some oxalic crystals in the mail tomorrow.
Re: NWTFHTY Guitar Day
Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:34 pm
by Slowy
Right. Took to the scunge with 1000 grit wet/dry and water. All the lumpy , black nastiness is gone leaving the water stain and cloudy finish. This is a massive improvement.
The finish is, of course now satin. Suggestions for re polishing it? Specifically, I have a bottle of automotive scratch and swirl remover. Any reason I souldn't use it?